My first project

[micspoko]

Hi all. I am a new on this forum and i want to show my first project. This is a 22,5m motor boat project which will built in Poland

[Landlubber]

Hi mate, so you are going to produce this boat or just a one off...what is the target market for this boat....and welcome to the nut house.

[michael pierzga]

Pretty cool ! One observation... For usability modern yachts need detailing aft and amidships to facilitate boarding . Naturally a passerelle aft and on yachts with high freeboard some solution amidships, for when the yacht is alongside, is important. Aft passarels have a difficult time generating the 45 degree angle and length needed to allow access when alongside. Many designers neglect this alongside access detail. Might put your thinking cap on and investigate Access when Alongside.... next to another yacht and alongside when next to a low dock.

Also its seems that customers for modern motoryachts put a premiun on watersports "toys"...jet ski's and fast tenders. Every single 20 to 30 meter motoryacht at the dock around me has one. Design detailing specific to the handling of these toys will really make your design stand out.

[terhohalme]

Cool, includes all the modern design cliches except the sheer line...

[michael pierzga]

As they say...to each his own !!!! I abhor modern, over stylized yachts, but then again.... I dont own yachts. Owners are attracted to this stuff.
Designers have to respond to demands.

I regularly see yachts ,designed by reputable designers, that are so Fugly they hurt my eyes, so impossble to operate and live with that you wonder what will happen to them once their Style has worn off ?.....grind em' up and make reinforced concrete out of their pulp ?

[micspoko]

For now we build one boat for customer and it still in design phase. But this boat will on offer for the shipyard, which is designed

We will put on swim platform a multifunctional platform transformer something like this:
http://www.opacmare.it/pages/transformer_model_3382/316

But I also think about acces on side. There is a place for fast tenders on flybridge aft
The sheer line based on older boat, becouse the owner wished.

[michael pierzga]

Those multifunction platforms are nice. I have something similar. Be sure to engineer the "platform to hull" structure to be very robust. Huge loads when the yacht is at anchor and is swept by ferryboat or motoryacht wakes, particularly when the wake strikes for and aft and the yacht "see saws" to the wave period.

[michael pierzga]

By the way..since your a designer it would be interesting to hear how you will accomodate the new ILO MLC ( Maritime Labour) rules concerning interior space. Going to be quite a challenge.

Originally Posted by michael pierzga

By the way..since your a designer it would be interesting to hear how you will accomodate the new ILO MLC ( Maritime Labour) rules concerning interior space. Going to be quite a challenge.

He will not worry about these rules Dude.

Go back to what you know best, your Penthouse magazines.

Originally Posted by michael pierzga

total spectrum dominance , giving me the time to chill out and read penthouse magazines in my bunk .

[micspoko]

this is interior design

[micspoko]

Where can i find this "ILO MLC ( Maritime Labour) rules concerning interior space" because the first time i hear about this rules. This is my first project and I'm still learning so thanks for any advice

[michael pierzga]

MLC application to yachts is still in its infancy. All designers are preoccupied with its effects on interior volume use. I'm not a designer so I cant give you the latest small yacht interpretation, but you can download the info at ILO.... International Labor Organization, Maritime Labour Convention.
These rulings affect CREWED yachts of a certain size and use. Commercially registered...Caymans Island or whatever investment vehicle your customers choose, ...charter yachts ....... Yachts Above 20 meters..... or whatever the limit, will enter the world of "crewed" yachts under MLC. Minimum floor space per crew, location of living accommodation ...... I'm not competly aware of the size ,the interpretations, the flag state "exemptions" to the ruling for yachts. The ruling is real..it will affect yacht design , you as a young designer, and the resale value of anything you build.. . Perhaps as a young designer you should start a thread on this website forum seeking the latest info, then we will all begin to understand the MLC's effects. .

[micspoko]

For now yacht is designed to navigate without a crew. therefore, so far I do not have to worry about this provision, but as the owner wishes it to such a solution then I'll wonder about it

[michael pierzga]

Its all about resale value.

Originally Posted by micspoko

Where can i find this "ILO MLC ( Maritime Labour) rules concerning interior space" because the first time i hear about this rules. This is my first project and I'm still learning so thanks for any advice

You must not worry, as I mentioned above!

Originally Posted by michael pierzga

Its all about resale value.

Nonsense, as all your posts!

the ILO rules apply never below 24m LWL or 80 tonnes displ. Hence my comment, no worries in this case.

Above the given figures, up to 200 tonnes, only commercially registered vessels are addressed (when manning to IMO is a requirement), and thats it.

Keep your mouth shut Michael, your comments are just drivel.

Richard