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Old 10-07-2008, 07:01 PM
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Cutting up and shipping a steel yacht??!!

Guys,

I need help here.

I am moving from Spain to Chile. I have a car, loads of personal belongings and a 30ft steel Van de Stadt.

I want to put the lot in a 40 ft shipping container. I need your input as to how to cut up and then rebuild a steel yacht. What tools do I need to hire to do the cutting? The re-build will be done by a boat yard in southern Chile. How many pieces to cut it into and along what lines?

If you think I'm crazy then please don't tell me in the replies... I already know! I just need some good solid advice. Also, I do have a decent engineering background.

Attached is a picture of the boat (I think).

I look forward to your ideas.

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Old 10-07-2008, 09:27 PM
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well yes you may not be crazy, but the idea is
container width 8 feet? you would need to split the boat lengthwise then cut the keel and house off, and believe me you will destroy that nice wee boat
have you priced sending deck cargo?
But hey if you are bent on the idea, remove all the wood, wiring and anything that will burn, and hire a man who can use oxy acetylene and go for it, , sorry I think maybe the crazy fits)
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Old 10-07-2008, 09:46 PM
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I didnt realise you couldnt buy a yacht in Chile?
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Old 10-07-2008, 09:49 PM
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Why don't you do it like a real man would and sail the boat to Chile on your own?
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Old 10-07-2008, 10:21 PM
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Don't they have cars and roads in Chile? and good carpenters to build furniture? I think you are too tied to possessions which are not really used.... Sell everything and have fun buying and fitting out for a leaner and more involved lifestyle instead of hording old memories "in case I might want to use it one day...." Too much clutter is bad for the soul/Karma/ability to enjoy life and what happens to be available... You cannot take it with you when you die... so live to enjoy your life does not mean hoard all possessions "in case"....
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Old 10-07-2008, 11:08 PM
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Fill the 30' metal shipping container you have that looks like a boat. Keep the tools and the means to make a livelihood, sell the rest.
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Old 10-07-2008, 11:37 PM
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This concept is possibly more wacky than disassembling a car and shipping it UPS across the country and then reassembling it in your garage instead of either driving the thing to the new home or just selling and re-acquiring. Unfathomable that you would think this idea has merit.

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Old 10-08-2008, 12:43 AM
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If there is any other way of handling this...

Could you build a cradle & ship it over? Engineer or not, the challenge of reassembling it and having it "fair" seems almost insurmountable, and the hours of disassembly would be onorous. If no other choice, perhaps someone like Wynand will be able to make suggestions for disassembly, as he builds these designs. Honestly, and with all due respect, I wouldn't do it.
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Old 10-08-2008, 12:48 AM
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It would seem to me that if this task was completed,
and later on the boat was to be sold and was surveyed
and they saw what had been done, the boat would have
the value of the salvage metal.

I don't see that the boat would ever be right???
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Old 10-08-2008, 12:53 AM
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Cheeky replies that I will not post
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Old 10-08-2008, 01:23 AM
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Sell the car and most belongings that's not very dear to you - load the rest on the boat and set the sails for Chile. Stop at the Bermuda's, have a cold beer and carry on to the big apple.
Visit Broadway, see a show and sail on to Miami. Visit a few strip joints, sniff some cocaine catch an alligator and the set off to the Caribbean. Visit all the main islands on your way to the Panama canal, through it and into the biggest ocean on the globe. Turn left to Chile.... or if you have balls, take her around the horn from Panama.

Pathfinder, doing it this way will be a great adventure and what a sail, wish I have that opportunity.

Or just sell the boat and buy/build another in Chile.
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Old 10-08-2008, 05:15 AM
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Ok Lets me make a few more things clear.....

Hi Guys,

Many thanks for the 'input' so far. A few thing I should have mentioned when I wrote the post was......

I have two months till departure.

I have no money.

Cars and boats are very expensive in Chile.

It is more economical to take everything with me than it is to sell everything and start again...... do you think I'm some frickin newbie to 'life'? I might be to boats but not to travelling and living in Chile you morons.

I asked for constructive comments not a giant piss take.

I can't sail over due to many circumstances.

Anyway, thanks for bugger all.

DB
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Old 10-08-2008, 08:54 AM
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Ask a bloody stupid question. - You got answers that in honesty endeavoured to give serious advice. What you asked was soooo far out you may as well fly to the moon as a consequence of a good solid kick in your arse - which you justifiably deserve....

Shipping (assuming all was cut to pieces and stacked inside several containers) would cost more than all the other options presented.... and you would end up with container loads of scrap iron to sell.... Use what little brainpower you have left to advantage and think....
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Old 10-08-2008, 09:42 AM
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If a boat was put together in sections, as a metal boat is, then I assumed it could be taken apart and rebuilt in sections again, just larger ones.

There is enough knowledge in you forum users combined to be able to rebuild the Titanic but I obviously asked my question on a day when you all climbed out of the bed the wrong side or you didn't get laid the night before.

As I mentioned I have a decent engineering background so answers regarding problems to do with strength, extra weight or mis-alignment after the rebuild would have been what I was looking for.

It's people like you guys that hold the 'little guys' back, I put up with this shit in the army. Why not make your comments constructive so others can learn from them. The next time I have a serious question I think I might be better off visiting www.pathetic-answers-and-comments.com or www.shoot-the-newbie-down-in-flames.com

Stick your forum up your arse... you help no-one!
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Old 10-08-2008, 10:13 AM
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Can you not get some one to sail the boat to Chile for you.It may just be cheaper that way. Calc your cost of having some one sail her over and compare the cost of rebuilding her.I think the fact that she is such a good looking boat may well be the reason you are getting the advice you are.I assume this transfere came out of the blue.

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