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Old 11-25-2005, 08:15 PM
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titanium cut thread wood screws??

Dose anybody know if titanium would be a good material for boat building it would be expensive but its really light really strong and EXTREAMLY corrosions resistant but if any knows better please let me know if theres any thoughs out there on this thanks Luke
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Old 11-25-2005, 09:41 PM
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If it is made, the corporate race boats are already using it.
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Old 11-26-2005, 11:06 AM
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oil rigs use titanium, dont know if screws are around but was reading http://www.kastenmarine.com/metalboats.htm on metals
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Old 11-26-2005, 11:19 AM
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wood screw

Im asking about the titainum wood screw cause i can manufacture cut thread wood screw im kinda wondering if anybody out there would want them i curruntly make the silicon bronze and stainless ones at www.oemfasteners.net if any ones want a quote or anything feel free
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Old 11-26-2005, 11:54 AM
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Luke . Since you are a Company, maybe someone on this site can give you a phone # that would get you into the various Corporate Racing camps and start the Titanium line for everyone. How about it guys?
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Old 11-26-2005, 11:57 AM
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Slow brain.------ Use the personal E Mail route to keep the corporate # from being "shelled" forever.
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Old 11-26-2005, 02:24 PM
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I have made profound investigations of what the use of titanium could significantly mean in the boatbuilding industry.

The first plan for entire build boats out of Titanium came to me through an old industrial spy from the ex USSR who gave me some drawings, asking me if it was possible to draw/design a substantial motoryacht in this material.

coming back to the topic: lot's of boatbuilding material is made out of titanium, mostly small stuff I can mention a whole list but it is mainly deck hardware.

The corrosionresistance is no issue: take the right alloy and there is no more corrosion resistant metal commercially available than titanium.

There was a time that titanium was as expensive as stainless steel. I could at that time get it for about DM 17,50 per Kg. That is around US$ 9 ,-- per kg.

The main problem will be now finding and getting the right supplier. Now the USA have boosted up so much their war machinery, lots of this stuff goes for the reinforcement of armor pieces in aircraft, combat vehicles and other applications.
There are still some large stocks in the USSR, who had he largest production of titanium spread over a few enormous plants. However, everybody is now aware of the value of titanium, and there is a high demand, for a number of material-related reasons,
Main producers of titanium now are Russia and China.

There could be a demand for titanium nuts and bolts, rivets (if you have the machinery to make them) because titanium is an inert material, resistant against almost anything and therefore it is so much used in the biomedical scene. There, in that traject will be absolutely an interest for this kind of product as you make.

There are a few other aspects related to titanium, the electrolytic polishing, the diamond coating and several other gimmicks you can do with that so precious metal.

It requires a different kind of technology, the most of it concentrated in the aeronautical and space industry, although there are countless other applications - from dentist- to tankproduction.

So if you have specific queries, I am (almost) certain that I may give you a reply.
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Old 02-07-2006, 09:48 AM
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I found a couple of places that supposedly make ti-screws, or can make them, sells ti, or otherwise

http://www.unitedtitanium.com/screws/

Here's a place that sells titanium in powder form?

http://www.baotou.com/pro/pro.htm

And this link is injection of ti into molds:

http://www.titaniuminfogroup.co.uk/home.asp?ID=87

And, finally, a place where you can get it in sheets, ingots and whatnots.

http://www.timet.com/productsframe.html

Personally, I really like titanium, I have owned bikes that were made from it, a computer (that unfortunately was 99.9% pure sheet, causing it to flex too much), Ti cooking equipment, Ti-burners, and ti-belt buckles. I really, really like that material. Once my small boat is built, I will use titanium shackles etc. where I cannot do without shackles at all. I recently thought of having the keelbands made from it. But as that would be far too expensive I was thinking that I might go for just the screws, if they're made.

Also, precourt.ca is making their deadeyes etc. from aluminium, I'd love them to make them from ti instead.

All this, of course, has nothing to do with weight, but everything to do with corrosion resistance and the structure/feel of titanium. It's nice to touch, imo, it doesn't feel as "impersonal" as steel.

Maybe it's just me, though ...

Andre
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Old 02-08-2006, 08:16 PM
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I can make the Ti screws if your intrested give me a call or email me at www.oemfasteners.net the trouble is the material, i can get the wire to make the screws but it runs like 35$ a pound plus shipping etc. and usually has a min of 50lbs But ,, if you want it .. we can do it just dam expensive but your right whats better then Ti.. as strong as alloy steel light as alum. and has aswome corrision resistance you know its the best !!
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Old 02-08-2006, 09:55 PM
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yikes! 50lbs! That's way too much - I'm about to build a 16ft bagger. Maybe if a whole lot of us got together?

How thick thread would you need? I'm thinking we could both keep a look-out?
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Old 02-08-2006, 10:29 PM
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Ah, I forgot, which type of Ti would be the best, if you were to make screws from it?
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Old 02-09-2006, 02:18 PM
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Where do I find carbon reinforced PEEK fasteners?

Yoke.
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Old 02-09-2006, 10:28 PM
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Where do I find carbon reinforced PEEK fasteners?

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Yes, now that is a good idea!

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mmmm........... titanium....pure or alloy?
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Old 02-14-2006, 04:57 AM
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Not pure, too soft, imo.
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