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Old 11-24-2011, 02:06 PM
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Spray Tack in laying in reinforcements

Perhaps someone could give me a definitive answer to another question I cannot find the answer to.
In infusion, when laying in the different layers of fabrics it is useful to use a tack spray adhesive to hold things in place. Some say 3M77 is OK and others say it resists the infusion like pebbles in a stream and negitively affects the epoxy cure. Is there any product out there that is recommended for infusion that actually becomes part of the epoxy during curing.
I have heard that there is, but can never find a name or a supplier.
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Fred
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Old 11-24-2011, 02:22 PM
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Use Raptor composite staples, if using a foam core:

They work great - and no worrying about adding questionable layers between your laminates.


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Old 11-25-2011, 04:00 PM
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Yes there is an epoxy compatible product.

you can get it Composites One.

NuTack® E 046-4103, 046-4106
REACTIVE TACKIFIER FOR USE WITH EPOXY RESINS IN RTM,
VACUUM BAGGING AND INFUSION APPLICATIONS
AEROSOL PACKAGING
(Copyright 2009)
DESCRIPTION:
NuTack® E 046-4103 and 046-4106 are sprayable, polymeric based tackifiers. They are designed for use in RTM, VARTM or vacuum bagging processes. NuTack® E 046-4103 and 046-4106 provide enhanced positioning of coring materials and dry glass fiber or carbon fiber roll goods. NuTack® E 046-4103 and 046-4106 are based on a reactive, toughened polymer technology specifically designed for use with epoxy resins. NuTack® E 046-4103 is a neutral for color sensitive applications. NuTack® E 046-4106 contains a blue dye for visual thickness control.
FEATURES AND BENEFITS:
4 Excellent adhesion to reinforcing glass fiber and carbon fiber roll goods as well as coring products
4 Maintains interlaminar strength between plies in the finished part
4 Maintains the cure and flow properties of epoxy infusion resins
4 Reactive chemistry allows broad application window
4 Neutral (NuTack® E 046-4103) available for color sensitive applications
4 Blue (NuTack® E 046-4106) available to provide visual thickness control.
4 Convenient aerosol packaging
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Old 11-27-2011, 08:05 AM
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I use NG-IF, which is available in spray cans and in 13,6 kg cannisters (self-propelled) and this glue does not see any problems.

Also popular is hotmelt glue, as it contains no VOCs. VacTac100 is a good one.

And indeed mechanical fastenings, like Raptor Composite Nails and staples, or Airtech Tackstrip.

In Europe all 4 options at www.brandscomposiet.nl
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Old 11-27-2011, 11:14 AM
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In Canada go to CCP Composites, they had been Progress Plastics until just recently.
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Old 11-28-2011, 08:33 AM
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Epoxy compatable tackifier

Thanks to all! I contacted Progress Plastics in Toronto and ordered the NuTack E 046-4103 tackifier that "Is Compatable" with epoxy. $22.00 per can. I have searched for months but this search is over.
It seems that advanced composite technical how to, is a dark art somehow.
Many people will not share their information.
I have not found this to be the case on this forum. Thanks again.
Fred
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