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Old 02-26-2009, 05:25 AM
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I have a question.
Consider a cored slender hull. You have one layer fabric each side. Obviously one of them should be 0'/90'. Does it make sense to skew the other to +-45' or is it better to keep the two layers in the same direction?
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Old 02-26-2009, 07:07 AM
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Does it make sense to skew the other to +-45' or is it better to keep the two layers in the same direction?
The answer is yes...............
I used Glassmat for core simulation, but the result is the same with foam core (not the figures naturally).
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Old 03-04-2009, 07:31 AM
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Thanks, good idea. Doesn't seem unlikely to me. But i haven't seen any examples of laminates using different bias each side of the core. Have you?
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Old 03-04-2009, 07:47 AM
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No, Sigurd.
But that does not mean that much, you know I´m building in wood / EP only. So, what have I seen?
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Old 03-04-2009, 09:21 AM
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Coal soot? Rot? I asked because I am getting a 180gsm 2/2 twill with 50/50 carbon/dyneema, which will likely be enough each side of the corecell (which is on its way!) for structure. If I only could remember what it was that I was going to build... Must have been something highly fashionable.
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Old 03-04-2009, 01:18 PM
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Coal soot? Rot? I asked because I am getting a 180gsm 2/2 twill with 50/50 carbon/dyneema, which will likely be enough each side of the corecell (which is on its way!) for structure. If I only could remember what it was that I was going to build... Must have been something highly fashionable.
You should read: HOW MUCH ABOUT THIS SUBJECT HAVE I SEEN!!! NOT TOO MUCH, AT LEAST NOT ENOUGH THAT IT WOULD COUNT!!!
was that clear?
Coal, soot, and rot, yes on my steamers I had enough of all.
On my production boats rot is no issue, we saturate the veneer almost completely. Coal and soot yes, fumes too, sometimes customers emit such stuff if we present the bill.
180gsm 2/2 Twill??? what means 2/2 in this case?
Cannot comment your last sentence, I still do not know what you are going to build!!!???

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Old 03-05-2009, 01:01 AM
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I understand. 2/2 twill means 2 over, one under, 2 over, etc in the weave - in both directions.. 0' and 90'.
From what I read, such weave is looser, but more easily conformed to curves, than plain weave (over, under, over...) The fibers also gets less kinks than PW - making it more fatigue resistant and giving it more compression strength.
http://www.sollercomposites.com/fabricchoice.html
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Old 03-05-2009, 03:44 AM
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I understand. 2/2 twill means 2 over, one under, 2 over, etc in the weave - in both directions.. 0' and 90'.
From what I read, such weave is looser, but more easily conformed to curves, than plain weave (over, under, over...) The fibers also gets less kinks than PW - making it more fatigue resistant and giving it more compression strength.
http://www.sollercomposites.com/fabricchoice.html
Thanks I got it, come back to subject later at night.
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Old 03-11-2009, 08:29 AM
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If you are interested in further opinions on the subject of asymmetric laminates, see this SA thread.
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Old 05-29-2009, 01:02 AM
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Interesting information. We used kevlar as an abraison layer just inboard from the outer skin, on the main hull of a carbon over end grain balsa tri.
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