need torque settings mie228 305ci

[shimano]

I should have a manual by now but I am looking for the following torque specs:

Harmonic Balancer
Fly Wheel
Damper Plate
Intake Manifold
Exhaust Manifold
Circ Water Pump

Thanks in advance for any responses.

[RMSOSF]

Harmonic Balancer 75 Ft/LBS with loctite red
Fly Wheel 45 FT/LBS with loctite red
Damper Plate 30 FT/LBS with loctite red
Intake Manifold 30 FT/LBS with permatex aircraft sealant
Exhaust Manifold 30 FT/LBS with never sieze
Circ Water Pump 30 FT/LBS with permatex aircraft sealant

[shimano]

Thanks for the info

[TerryKing]

Originally Posted by RMSOSF

Harmonic Balancer 75 Ft/LBS with loctite red
Fly Wheel 45 FT/LBS with loctite red ...(etc)...

RMSOSF, are these numbers different than typical repair manual numbers because of the lubricant/sealants used?? If so, is there any convention on how torque values should be adjusted (I assume downward) due to using them?

I seem to remember something about different values for oiled VS dry Head Bolts, but it's back in my distant past!

[Frosty]

35 years ago at the RR school in London a boy stood up and with a slighty nervous voice asked--"Why dont Rolls Royce give torque values?"

The waxed mustached teacher in a white coat with hands in his pocket looked at the student and said" If you dont know how tight a bolt should be -we dont want you working on our engines"

I have never owned a torque wrench!!

[RMSOSF]

Originally Posted by TerryKing

RMSOSF, are these numbers different than typical repair manual numbers because of the lubricant/sealants used?? If so, is there any convention on how torque values should be adjusted (I assume downward) due to using them?

I seem to remember something about different values for oiled VS dry Head Bolts, but it's back in my distant past!

You are right. fastener manufacturers do have charts for using lubricants or dry applications. Most fasteners should have some form of lubricant as you torque them whether it be oil or sealers, so the torque values given by the fastener manufacturer is usually a "range".

Actually, if you want exact torgue settings for a particular application, then you would follow a torque-angle format. Many of the engine maufacturers give torque-angle settings rather than actual torque on head bolts. Those settings are usually with their reccomendation as to what to apply to the threads. Most other fasteners on an engine are not as critical as long as you don't over stress the bolt. I use loctite red on anything under 20 FT/LBS or on things such as flywheel and dampner bolts.