Boat Design Forums  |  Boat Design Directory  |  Boat Design Gallery  |  Boat Design Wiki (beta)  |  Boat Design Book Store  |  Thanks to Our Site Sponsors  |  Sitemap

Go Back   Boat Design Forums > Design > Propulsion > Inboards
Register FAQ Members List Calendar Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
  #1  
Old 07-30-2007, 11:46 AM
M&M Ovenden M&M Ovenden is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Rep: 239 Posts: 128
Location: Ottawa
CV drive-shaft/thrust bearing comments?

Our hull is built, we are now working at the detail components of the boat, getting it ready to sandblast the inside this fall. We are also planning in detail the boats systems of which the motorization.
Here's our issue and reason of this post. We are debating using a CV drive-shaft and thrust bearing assembly (python drive, aquadrive) or not.
I never really found the standard installation of engines in sailboat made much sens. An engine mounted on rubber even carefully aligned within tight tolerance doesn't maintain its drive shaft on a descent strait axis, it's all over the place. Adding to the inherent vibration the thrust misaligns the system back and forth and the healing side to side, resulting into unwanted loads and wearing actions.
On an other side, in some cases adding components and complicating a system can have its cons and some times not make sens either.

Maybe to guide ideas a few details about the boat could help. It's a heavy displacement 53000 lbs sailboat, 50ft. We are currently planning on powering with a beta marine BV3300-75 hp (we are not big on over powering a sailboat). Du to the hull shape the drive shaft will have a 8 degrees angle (max spec installation angle for the engine is 15 degrees). Space for CV-drive is not an issue.

We are fans of simplicity but also like doing things right. So is it worth going the extra mile and equipping our sailboats engine system with a CV drive-shaft and thrust bearing? What are others experience with those assemblies? Is there a brand/kind to favor or other manufacturers to consider apart from the major known ones? I tend to consider work boats rather than yachts as good comparison base for sturdy systems, what drive installation do small work boats favor? Ok that might be enough questioning, you probably get the trend.

Thanks,
Murielle
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 08-08-2007, 02:10 PM
FAST FRED FAST FRED is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Rep: 288 Posts: 2,303
Location: Conn in summers , Ortona FL in winter , with big dock & room for O'nite stop .
DO IT, We have a simalar setup and its GREAT!

Besides never wondering about engine alignment, the ability to REALLY soft mount the engine (exhaust water & fuel need to be as flexible) the reduction in noise and vibration is fantastic.

Its expensive (aqua drive) but well worth it. Build the engine mounts so you can toss a replacement engine in , and you will never worry about parts or obsolesence.

If you have the $$$ most controllable pitch props come with a thrust bearing Hundstat (sp?) or similar, saves the cost of some crummy folding prop that is worthless at backing.

FF
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 08-08-2007, 04:03 PM
brian eiland's Avatar
brian eiland brian eiland is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Rep: 728 Posts: 1,856
Location: Washinton DC, Annapolis MD, Thailand
U-joint, CV- joint, Thompson coupling

You might have a look here at this new Thompson CV joint

http://boatdesign.net/forums/showthread.php?p=129565#post129565
__________________
RunningTideYachts.com
Distinctive Expedition Yachts
Reply With Quote
Reply



Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Velvet drive spins shaft in neutral Luchog Inboards 11 04-15-2007 02:04 AM
Drive shaft plattgatter Surface Drives 0 03-15-2007 03:17 PM
World`s First Trimable Shaft Drive. tom kane Open Discussion 26 12-27-2005 07:25 PM
truck engine/trany needs thrust bearing welding rod Powerboats 1 11-04-2005 06:27 AM
truck engine/trany needs thrust bearing welding rod DIY Marinizing 1 10-28-2005 12:11 AM


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:32 AM.


Powered by: vBulletin 3 Copyright ©2000 - 2009, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Web Site Design and Content Copyright ©1999 - 2009 Boat Design Net