Solomon Technologies - "Electric Wheel" electric motor propulsion systems

[safewalrus]

Which goes to prove you can use math to prove just about anything! or bu****it or is it the same thing? the main thing is getting anybody to listen! Jeess, we're only allocated a certain amount of time on earth, would you want to waste it listening to some crackbrained numpty explaining that something that makes virtually no diference is about as useful as a bucket with a hole in it!

[yipster]

trouty your briliant and i get back to you in time

[safewalrus]

Cause he's bloody brilliant but is he any use? (other than a large pee taker - he good at that!)

[Ari]

Hallo Trouty, Your lenghty explanation on theory of relativity do make it clear to me of the theory " the more you learn..the more you forget" can't even remember now what's that. Anyway..I do really agree with you about the positive and negative reaction and pairing. Do agree with you about the abundant amount of energy waiting to be harness. Know something about the lost tressure of Tesla ?. Don't know if it is real or not..; America is a country that really in need of a war..if this world become too peacefull..who is going to buy all those super advance weapon produce by their firms..?Weapons are make to kill..they need enemy to utilise their weapon..to run their economy. They have to utilise it someway..somewhere..to justified those weapon construction..to make sales..so what if somebody else got wasted..collateral damage..so what if some Americans thats too young to drink in publics and yet old enough too be wasted in foreign soil bought it.."Ceasars" won't blink an eye on all those carnage..after all they are just collateral damage..

[Wellydeckhand]

Originally Posted by RThompson

Yeah, thats a REALLY good idea.
I tried that a year or two ago. Ruined my life. Read through his site, that led to other sites. Then someone offered me some Noam Chomsky at a party - just casual like, "between friends" he said (an innoculous little book called Media Control). Well that led to harder stuff.
Now I struggle to hold down a decent conversation without turning to global doom and gloom about apathetic and ignorant populations, oil, the Great Terrorism Lie and its mate The Great Democracy Joke, Bush and his boss's, etc etc...

I'v been reduced to a cynic randomly twitching in a dark corner while I plot to overthrow the world.
Ignorance is (in fact) bliss.

ps the revolution will not be televised.

so u knew Trouty....... personally

at least I get a laugh after reading papers on cock fighting and rubbish.....

[EEW]

I was doing a search on Solomon Technologies, and came across this Blog starting in 2002... I haven't read all of the responses, but saw a few from Trout... and had heard about this "World Solution" from others.

"The picture" Trout has posted a couple of times is on the Internet in a few places, but I have yet to see something working. FYI- I am neither a math wiz or maritime or power engineer, just curious on power technologies and some continuously variable transmission (CVT) -like options. I personally like the Stirling engine concept, but there is very little that can transfer into power sufficient for most applications [an expensive fan to put on your wood stove is quite a nice application].

Everything on the internet is NOT fact, nor good for you
If you scroll about half-way down on http://www.phact.org/e/z/BeardenReview.htm, you'll see
***SNIP*** The Motionless Electric Generator (MEG)
Post Mortem Analysis
The forum Bearden choose to disclose his device was JLN labs. A well known internet website, run by Jean Louis Naudin. As the most popular over-unity website, it was a logical choice. But Mr Bearden was not trying to be charitable by this act, in fact it was all part of a carefully calculated hype campaign, spanning multiple media outlets, designed to enable Mr Bearden to win massive venture capital backing for the ‘MEG,’ so that research could be taken up to the next level. In this respect at least, Mr Bearden appears to have been extremely successful, and did indeed win millions of dollars of funding, to launch a multinational research effort, that in time, truly spanned the globe. His every wish was granted, and the MEG team had at a their disposal, all the funds the could reasonably have wished for. In this respect, it is impossible to claim the device was ‘suppressed.’ ***END SNIP***

But the "Factoid" on http://www.cheniere.org/ Mr. Beardons Web Site still states as of today ***SNIP*** "Factoid: the MEG's development has been funded entirely by the inventors' savings and a few modest donations." ***END SNIP*** And -
***SNIP*** "Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2006 17:27:07 -0600


Tony,



We are just beginning again to rebuild another MEG demonstrator, for testing and then funding to complete the program.



We have a very hard year to a year and a half of work on the MEG, before it is out of engineering development and ready for production engineering. At that time, with successful conclusion of ED we will hopefully be in condition to place the system on the market.



Best wishes,

Tom Bearden

***END SNIP***
On his web site, you can see his latest on garnering energy from Vacuum, among other 'discussions' for your own informed decision.

I have heard Mr. Bearden and followers is/are still touting his magic power wand, to include trying to get people to buy into generators for their back-up home requirements... just give him money and be on the leading edge of what'll eventually roll in some day... how many years now?
http://jnaudin.free.fr/cstack/index.htm Here is the latest I could find on "Over-Unity" from the "Source", JNL Labs.

IMHO... I wouldn't be designing a boat, ship or anything beside some lab toys; floating aluminum foil in the air isn't going to get your hull far.

For something a bit more promising, you may be interested in www.camfridge.com

FYI - Some folks were discussing the DD(X) http://www.naval-technology.com/projects/dd21/ has a blurb - ***SNIP*** PROPULSION

It is envisaged that the DD(X) would have an all-electric drive with an integrated power system, (IPS) based on in-hull permanent magnet synchronous motors (PMMs) with Advanced Induction Motors (AIM) as a possible backup solution. The provision of electric drive eliminates the need for drive shaft and reduction gears and brings benefits in acoustic signature reduction, an increase in available power for weapon systems and improvements in the quality of life for crew.

The IPS would supply power to other ship systems such as the combat systems and allow the rapid reconfiguration of power requirements.

DRS Technologies Power Technology unit has received development contracts for the PMM motors, electric drive and control system for the IPS. The Rolls-Royce MT30 36MW gas turbine generator set has been selected to power the IPS EDM and Rolls-Royce delivered the first set in February 2005. The MT30 has 80% commonality with the Rolls-Royce Trent 800 aero engine and Rolls-Royce states that it is the most powerful marine gas turbine in the world. CAE will supply the integrated platform management system.
***END SNIP***

[marshmat]

Re: Tom Bearden et al. Tip: Learn some science. Nutbars who don't know jack about physics but claim 'over-unity' inventions (devices that violate the first law of thermodynamics and as such cannot possibly work as claimed) are not going to solve the world's problems. And there's nothing at all new or innovative about coupled capacitors.
Re: The DD(X) and DRS, magnetic refrigeratioin, etc. Now THIS might go somewhere!

[pci]

Originally Posted by trouty

When you look at my plasmoidal induction scalar electromagnetic propulsion system (pat pend) you'll see that it's performance peramaters far exceed those of the electric wheel depicted above.

Of course the reduction in input energy costs also make plasmoidal induction propulsion the system of the 21st century!

The phase locked conjugate pair waveform scalar electrical energy of the plasmoidal induction engine is the secret to this system. That and the latent energy trapped within time are the keys... E= Delta TC squared, s what it's all about Tesla really is the one who discovered it.

This is basically what makes it tick!



Now - I'f I could just find a barge the size of the Queen Mary to carry the damn batterys! ;o)

Cheers!

I'd like to find out more about this - can you tell me a bit more how it works?

[pci]

Originally Posted by trouty

It'd be nice to think I was joking and all this scalar electromagnetics stuff would just dissapear, but the truth of the matter is, it actually works!

Thats why the US patents office granted a patent a few weeks ago.

http://www.prahlad.org/pub/bearden/patent_meg.htm

Yep - the electronic wheel is great - BUT imagine how good it will be when - you don't need to keep charging and discharging batterys to power it but you harness the free energy trapped within time, ony using the battery source once to initiate the system!

Free energy - are you with me here?...

No diesel fuel - no hydrogen cell no nuthin - just a MEG (Motionless Electromagnetic Generator).

Course - you can couple MEGs inline for additional power, and if you want to you can run them thru the electrioc wheel to power a propellor - but how agricultural is that?

Bout the only thing missing is the guy standing at the prow beating the drum!

Noo - once people cotton onto scalar electromagnetics - the world as we know it today in terms of energy needs will be totally changed as if in the blink of an eye - forever more.

Think back to pre 1943, and Hiroshima/ Nagasaki...

Who'd a ever thought there was enough energy trapped within the atom to do that much damage to whole citys full of people?

Who'd have ever thought that we'd have whole US naval Carrier battle groups & submarines at sea, powered by - nuclear reactors - harvesting the energy trapped within the atom?

What "momentous discovery" led us to nuclear energy?...

Well - Albert Einstein had a bit to do with it...when he formulated his "general theory of relativity" (never loan munney to relatives) ...er no - sorry, I mean E = MC2

Sooo....Now I come along telling you that Tesla's discovery of scalar electromagnetics, has given us E=TC2 where T is delta T or change in time, and suddenly - I'm telling a big joke???

Why is it so "unbelievable" that there could be as much energy trapped within time as there is withing the atom?

You see, it's something like the atom before 1942....the energy was always there - we just werent smart enough until then to realise a way to harness that energy trapped within the atom.

In the same way - there is the same amount of energy trapped within time...IF we just understand the physics that allows us to harness that energy. The MEG or motionless Electromagnetic Generator as described in the patent and depicted here:-



is REALITY people - it's real - it works - the energy is free!

Just think for a few seconds...what that means in terms of "boat design" never mind about the implications for our western oil based economies and all the wars we are about to fight in the middle east and caspian basin over oil.....just think what "unlimited free energy" means to the world!

Hows it work?...

Well, if you have the time - you could start reading here and sooner or later the penny will drop!

http://www.cheniere.org/techpapers/F...993/index.html

Now - the guy who has compiled all this is a former US Colonel (RET) involved in computer nuclear holocaust war simulation modelling for the US military, so he's no dummie.

It's a big subject that will have (in due time) huge implications for vessel propulsion......among other things!

I'm personally of the opinion that MEGS coupled to plasmoidal induction hydrodynamic drive engines, will be the "future" for vessel propulsion...BUT I could be wrong!

I guess only "time" will tell...

In the mean "time" practice reciting what Tesla knew almost 100 years ago...

That E=TC2 where T is delta T or change in time.

If you care to really stretch the grey matter...resolve this.

E=MC2 (Einstein)
also
E=TC2 (Tesla)

Therefore,

If
E=MC2
&
also
E=TC2

Then it follows that

MC2 = TC2

Therefore it follows that

M=T (where T is delta T or change in time)

So, troutys theory of the space time continuum...

Mass = Change In Time

Ponder the implications of that for a wee while...I'll be asking 20 questions whenI get back!


Cheers!

Would like to find out more about this - have you proceeded any further? Thanks.

[yacht371]

Pure ********!

[Robert Miller]

You assert that the statement M=T is true, (where you define T as "change in time").
Not so.
And certainly not consistent with understanding of the equation E=MC^2.
C is the constant in that equation.

Note that neither delta t, nor mass, are constants.

Invoking this equation shows the assertions that follow to be impossible, as opposed to "proving" them.

This stuff really is nonsense.

Robert

[marshmat]

Trouty- I know these things are good for a laugh now and then, always fun to pull a leg or two, but this one's come up so many times now that I'm starting to wonder if you might actually believe it. And that has me worried. The theory (and math) behind relativity is a hell of a lot more complicated than these rants. Latent energy trapped within time? Sorry, but that's bull and has no place in a serious discussion like this one. Please leave this sort of fiction out of here.

[docnmacy]

Look at Augustacanal.com
We build 2 65' boats powered by 2 2 1/2 hp motors and Volvo Saildrives. Speed is good and they are incredably quiet. USCG approved it.

[Kay9]

I read every post in this and after all the BS math and such I have come to the conclusion that I know more about Relativity then Trouty, and that while electric looks promiseing it isnt about the way you convert energy into propulsion its about the way/medium you store the energy to create that propulsion.

Im not a NA nor am I a boat designer. I am however a 1600T master with Ocean endorsements, and 20+ years blue water sailing. I am presently restoring a 60' double ender and I have been considering electric as a form of aux prop. However after reading a great deal here about Batts and Generators, 2 things keep comming to the front.

1. The equivalent cost of Batt's, Gen, and Electric motor, are higher then Engine/Trans, smaller gen.

2. Lea shores scare the hell out of me, and I would sure hate to have dead batts, underpowered electric motor.

Im still intrested and I have even skippered some 120' Diesel electric ships in my past, but I just dont see this as an affordable alternative to a Diesel Aux.

Please correct me if I am worng as I am at the decision point right now, not 10 years from now.

[caribmon]

Originally Posted by Kay9

2. Lea shores scare the hell out of me, and I would sure hate to have dead batts, underpowered electric motor.

1600T master with Ocean endorsements?

I have been known to use my sails to get off a lee shore... without an engine.