Capturing Wake Energy Without Drag ?

Questor. I challenge you to prove you are not a troll by posing pictures of your recent model test boats on the the sink and bathtub.

 

I suppose you have to understand the nature of oilmen. In general they are great liars and masters of deceit.Those that rise fastest to the top are the ones that create the greatest personal legends of themselves without getting caught by weaknesses in their mastery of the previously mentioned crafts.As you can easily tell by my earlier posts I am not of that character. I am not prone to either falsehood nor exaggeration. In light of my sometimes crippling honesty I honesty don't know why I was once offered a major management position.

Within our industry there are also issues of nomenclature. They introduce me to clients as " a shining star, the most brilliant mind in the Power Engineering segment of our industry ", whereas I am introduced to the crew with a wink as the new boilerhand. With the wink there is the suggestion that I am a total idiot and that the crew ought to keep an eye out. Some Wellsite Power Engineers will quit a job the first time you call them a boilerhand. Either that or they'll subtly sabotage the crew in ways that make them wish they had quit.

 

Gawdelpus........................

watch the time mates when this guy says "good morning"! It sure IS morning....


.....but where on the globe?

 

....naah, not in this solar system!

(Actually Richard, I first thought you were pulling our noses for fun; there is a slight smell of bihydrooxide from this thread... reminding me of something in the past?)

 

Dihydrogenmonoxid? Or hydroxyl acid?

Don´t remember Bodo.

 

In the regard of your interesting idea Questor it could be usable also as combustion engine mufflers. As all we know combustion engines produce a noise which is way over the dynamic energy generated by the engines and bcs noise ie sound is a form of wave energy like waves on water..

 

could we feed the crew beans and capture other forms of energy?

 

It's one thing to admit to a an act of stupidity by disclosing the failure to obtain stable hull wake actions from a stationary boat, posting online personal photos of the act is another. I do have to maintain legendary credibility in the oilpatch. Posting photos like that could end my career.

Trolls have also been known to own cameras , model boats and comparable research facilities to my own. I suppose I could concede to having some minor trollistic behavior from time to time. That's not a product of willful intent as much as it is a subconscious stumbling of an unstable mind.One of the problems of having been an idiot savant is that long after the savant has gone up in smoke the idiot aspect of the personality retains full youthful vigor with a little added muscle. That could be a factor in what may look like trollistic posting.

In the name of scientific pursuit and personal integrity, the next scheduled experiment will occur as soon as I find the research vessel. I fear that the boat will overturn in the first corner.That won't be a consequence of the design concept as much as it will be a product of limited flexibility of the scale model wings.With only $4.00 in the research and development account, developing scale model wings that are true to the concept is, for the time being, an insurmountable difficulty.

In the past I have asserted that scientists out to challenge certainty because certainty does not exist.It would be hypocritical therefore if I didn't make the best possible attempt with the resources available to me.

 

Don't take it so hard, like don't kill yourself. That said, the laws of conservation of energy, thermdynamics, you get what pay still apply in this universe, remember that. No free lunch is the greatest saying in the sciences of physics, chemistry, economics, politics, relationships and even boating. Once you learn this you can be part of the real universe....

 

I have successfully challenged the popular no free lunch argument that is so often put forward by those that quote the laws of thermodynamics. I get mine everyday at the local rescue mission. The results that I have achieved can easily be verified in most major North American cities by simply asking the local hobos where you can get one. Follow their directions and if they were sufficiently sober you'll soon be dining upon your free lunch.

Faculty members at the local University have challenged the free aspect of the lunch by pointing out the cost of driving to get there is more valuable than the lunch itself. Stubborn as I am I parked the car and bought a bus pass. Once again they complained, this time asserting that the bus pass was more valuable than the lunch. Not willing to surrender I then started walking to the rescue mission. Then they complained about the wear and tear on my high end shoes. After that I started walking to the free lunch in bare feet.Then they complained about the costs of bandages, iodine and antibiotics for the infected cuts and blisters plus the calories expended to walk the five miles there and back.

At the present time I am stalled on attempting to disprove that I expend more calories on the walk than I receive from the free lunch. There are so many unknown variables.In terms of calories the free lunch is an unknown variable because it changes everyday. The Physics guys are really playing hardball on this debate. In addition to requiring me to prove my calorie output for the walk vs the caloric value of the lunch ,they have insisted that I have to include calculations on the caloric cost of earning the money that bought the food that provided the extra energy to make the walk.

Well, all that math is way over my head but I am determined to win the debate. I have arranged to borrow an unused bus pass to get to the rescue mission. Once there I am going to book in for three days. That will give my worn and weary feet a much needed rest plus I'll get 3 free lunches plus free breakfasts and suppers to top it off. I'd like to see how the Physics faculty is going to beat 9 free meals with no cost of transportation and no greater expenditure of calories than I would use up moving within my own home.

I know I'm going to win the debate after staying in the rescue mission for 3 days. When it comes to a showdown between common sense and overconfidence in the elementary laws of thermodynamics , common sense will always win the day.

 

The free lunch is costing you your mind. It is far better to get a job, pay your taxes and retain your sanity and self-respect.

 

The laws of Thermodynamics are common sense, they work just like gravity.

 

It has been a long time since I had a free lunch debate with a faculty member.I think it was essentially a popular escape measure when it did come up. I think in a real debate I would seek third party arbitration to determine whether or not it was fair to introduce a philosophical argument vs energy costs and returns.

The real answer to the no free lunch assertion is supposed to be that is why we develop work saving technologies. That is supposed to be countered by the argument that there are greater environmental costs associated with our wasteful technologies than we gain from our use of them. In the careless pursuit of wasteful technology we have already lost our minds and are now well on our way to losing our lives and planet.

 

Ouch. My brain hurts.

 

I think Questor is one of those guys you see downtown talking to fire hydrants.

That said, your "Free Lunch" analogy is absurd. Your lunch is either paid by tax payers, or by generous philanthropists. Whether you paid for it or not is meaningless.

In fact, your failure to understand a "Free Lunch" has parallels with your failure to understand thermodynamics. Most often when some self described genius invents a device which breaks one of the laws of thermodynamics, they have failed to account for some energy input, which is giving the appearance of a working perpetual motion machine.

As an aside, you mentioned earlier that the word engineer comes from "Engine Operator". That's total nonsense. The word Engineer comes from the latin word "ingenium", which means cleverness.