Negative feedback retaliation

[gonzo]

Some members use negative feedback to retaliate when they can't win an argument. Two examples are Baeckmo and Mark775.

[Frosty]

Improve this system or do away with it I say.

Ive been told to close,---no sorry lets get this right --"Shut my mouth or flies will get in".

Who wrote that an 8 year old or one of our resident intelligent academic marine architects? This was in retaliation to my questioning Baeckmos explanation of surface propellers.

Again it was for questioning his theory. May not have been Baeckmo and there lies another problem.

[daiquiri]

Not that it is really important to have them positive or negative or whatever, if you think of it... I've used to heat up over these things too, but then I realized that they don't really change a thing.
It is only a matter of our personal vanity being hurt, nothing else. Do away with the vanity and you will get immune to negative reps.

[baeckmo]

For all those involved: I have NEVER used the negative rep feedback option here, neither for Gonzo, nor anyone else! So if that is what's steaming you up, Gonzo; I don't like your rude attitude, but that's the way you want it, I can live with that. BUT DON'T SPREAD LIES ABOUT ME, thats all I request!

[Frosty]

daiquiri that is a very sensible post and one I wish I could take some advise from. I wonder if vanity is really the right word but I wish to tell you that I have made a deduction from your rep points experimentational reasons in mind as to wether you feel your vanity has been affected. Please don't take this personal, but perhaps you may want to discuss your feelings now.

By the way you look like that bloke on the telly who I like a lot.

[daiquiri]

Frosty, I've received so many negative reps, you can't imagine... The pattern is always the same - positive reps for technical contributions, negatives for personal resentments... You know, many people gets offended on a personal level when you disagree with them at the technical... So at the end I have concluded that rep points should really have little or no importance if you need to evaluate someone's competence.
You can feel the competence of a person only by the arguments he/she uses to explain his point of view.

In that sense, baeckmo has always been very precize and well-documented. I honestly believe he is not the kind of guy who needs negative reps to give weight to his point of view.
I was not asked to defend him, and he doesn't need it either - I just wanted to tell my personal point of view.

Originally Posted by Frosty

By the way you look like that bloke on the telly who I like a lot.

And that would be...?

[gonzo]

Frosty: my last negative comment on the surface piercing propellers had the same comment.

[Frosty]

I hav'nt really deducted points from you diaqirie, your too nicer person for that.

Yeah you look like ,--you know that bloke in that movie --Oh whats it called now,--you know him that did that thing.

Well, you look like him.

[daiquiri]

Aaaaah ok, I think I know who you're talking about... He was also famous for that phrase... Ehm... Right?

[gonzo]

I thought there is something like you can't edit your posts if you have zero points

[Frosty]

You mean Eh?

I got it,--kevin Spacey

[Jeff]

Originally Posted by gonzo

Some members use negative feedback to retaliate when they can't win an argument. Two examples are Baeckmo and Mark775.

Just a note that I did a search and between December 20 and January 19, there is no feedback left for you by Baeckmo so you can fault me for having put in place an imperfect system with the rep system, but you owe Baeckmo an apology. Also the feedback Mark775 left for you during that period is positive! I've been hesitating to do too much modification for the last couple months as we're on the brink of upgrading to vBulletin 4.x which will mean everything custom has to be redone. It's out, but I'm waiting for a few issues to be fixed in the core before going that way. Then I think it will make sense to revisit the anonymity of the rep system.

I thought there is something like you can't edit your posts if you have zero points

No, the only thing currently in place based on user reputation is that if you have a reputation less than 10 (meaning negative from the starting line which is 10) your comment is left for the user but you can't actually affect their numeric reputation number if your reputation isn't above 10. Also, if you don't have 50 posts you can't affect someone's numerical rep number. And you can't leave negative reputation if you have less than 100 posts so brand new users can't come and down-rate someone without being part of the community for a while.

[gonzo]

I offer my apologies then. Sorry

[Zed]

I prefer the 'thanks' system where by a poster can be thanked for a positive contribution and it is publicly on display, both in the count and under the post. Its an addon to this board I think, I have seen it work well elsewhere. Anyway the net result is the same without the punishment angst, good posters earn points, bad one don't and no wars start. BTW the thanks are not anonymous, they don't need to be.

2c

FWIW

[Jeff]

Originally Posted by Zed

I prefer the 'thanks' system where by a poster can be thanked for a positive contribution and it is publicly on display, both in the count and under the post. Its an addon to this board I think, I have seen it work well elsewhere. Anyway the net result is the same without the punishment angst, good posters earn points, bad one don't and no wars start. BTW the thanks are not anonymous, they don't need to be.

2c

FWIW

This seems like a good idea. A hybrid could be good too where a rep number still augments the post count, as determined by the thank yous replacing the current positive rep button. But implemented in this way, it would more strongly encourage thanking members for posting positive and quality posts.