Forum Reputation

[DanishBagger]

Short point. It's weird that people think of words like "idiot" as a rude one, and thus the person using the word must be rude.

The truth is, that the rudest people I have ever met, weren't using socalled "rude" words, hiding their rudeness behind seemingly politeness, defining which words can and cannot be used, arrogance and narcissism.

Is this "reputation"-thingymajig a good thing? Well, no, frankly, but all the arguments against it and for it was put into the other thread, so there really is no point in arguing that here. But it's Jeff's place, and there is not much I can do about it. If people decide that other people can be voted out, they seemingly can now. I do not feel that that is anywhere near ideal, on the contrary.

I guess I have to get used to be assigned points (or actually have them detracted) for not being a back-padding type of bloke.

I'll wear my zero proudly.

[kach22i]

I do have something positive to say about this system, not that it should be taken as an endorsement.

1. The fact that this system is pointed in the positive direction (a good thing), the more points being the better is refreshing.

2. For background; I once received a 25% warning rating (a negative) in forum I will call "HCA". This was and still remains my first and only problem with a forum outside of the typical clique group stuff. The reason for this warning/branding was because a power abusive administrator in let’s calls it forum "YHL" complained about something I said in "YHL" (her) forum. What did I say that was so bad? Very simple, my first post at "YHL" said that "HCA" had a nice forum and people should "check it out sometime". This started off some hate e-mails from her (the administrator) claiming I was "attacking her family". I posted her ridiculously accusatory e-mail (in both forums) and really pissed her off even more. Unknown to me at the time was that there were some old ugly feelings the administrator of "YHL" held for every member of "HCA", guilt by association they call it. The only good thing to come of it was that people started to talk about the long standing problem, which made the administrator of "YHL" go back into her hate filled hole. I was a hero to some, a black sheep to others.

3. The contempt some people in this forum have shown for others and perhaps our less serious members is a real ugliness I have felt and been victim too before. There is a happy medium out there; we just have to work together to find it.

[Wellydeckhand]

Right....... We are not born to judge but surely to read forum and share some insight into human nature that make the design tick.

[Ike]

Sorry to say this, and it's probably too late anyway, but then I'm new to this forum; but this is nonsense. This reputation idea will only be equitable if everyone who is a member participates. I don't think that many will bother. The more vocal members on both sides of the issue will, but then we have the tyranny of the vocal minority and the acqiuesence of the silent majority. And then what are you going to do? Are you going to kick people off the forum because a few cranks don't like them?

I too have participated in a lot of forums. I have left those where there is a lot of flaming and discord and name calling simply because those types of forums accomplish nothing. Most of this forum, from what I have seen of it in three days, is honest discussion pro and con of ideas. It is a valuable resource. Don't screw it up!

Well there goes my reputation! Only two days and I had to shoot off my big mouth.

[Jeff]

I don't think that many will bother.

True. And I realize that it might be a burden as well for some and they are free not to use it. At least it does give the majority the opportunity to voice their opinion and steer the community in a subtle but hopefully effective way. Further, sometimes I've wanted to say "thanks - that's great information" but not wanted to post such an empty comment in the public forum and didn't take the time to send the person an email - this provide a really quick way to say thanks to members who contribute great posts...

Are you going to kick people off the forum because a few cranks don't like them?

A few -- definitely not. Dozens or more other members disapproving of their posts -- quite possibly. There are some safeguards built in to prevent people being downvoted because a member "dislikes" them - first, new members with less than 50 posts can leave a comment which will appear under the user's cp reputation section still giving them a thank you or a hint that their post has gone off course, but have no weight to affect others' reputation points until they reach 50 posts. Second, no one can rank another targeted member's posts over and over. Third, your weight is proportion to the reputation points you've been given by others.

It is a valuable resource. Don't screw it up!

Maybe that should be our #1 rule
Honestly up until now that is how we ran things and it worked great... 99.9% of our members have been really wonderful time in and time out and until we started to get big, I think the sense of community kept things running along very smoothly. Now I'm simply looking for some additional tools for the community to use to help me moderate and to help keep the forums on course.

[kach22i]

Since this problem has surfaced and been discussed to death these past few weeks, I have not seen anymore hijacking of threads with meaningless and confusing blather.

That is not to say the fun is gone, only that the funsters have already seen the light and have shown great restraint.

Perhaps those who were accused of doing the offending did not know they were hurting the toes they were stepping on and have seen the errors of their ways.

I'm thinking that the storm has passed, but it's still too early to remove the plywood from the windows and bring the boats back into the marina.

[safewalrus]

Hers a little salutory lesson, make of it what you will -

"In certain areas of the world certain er low life who can't or won't pay their bills, you know the style; tend to get thelocal shop owners somwhat pi***d off (well the poor guy is about to go bust because of it!) and they think

!lets put a shame board up outside the shop! Put the names of all those who haven't paid on to it and they'll be so embarassed they will pay!"

don't work - in fact quite often the local 'scroats' become proud of the fact their name is on the board and others stop paying to be on it too! 5H1T one embarassed and broke shop keeper!"

See where I'm coming from/ make of it what you will.......

the Walrus (who's reputation stays at a healthy 11! Hell that's going up will have to insult someone!

[Oyster]

Guillermo
Senior Member

On my side, I'm not here to come into 'tavern' discussions, but to learn (a lot) and contribute with my bit of knowledge when I can. If I want tavern discussions I go to the tavern, not here.

I commend you for your complete post, but in particular the above thoughts. Nicely spoken in typeset.

[Mayfly]

Sorry , I have found and feel confused on the mood of the forum, how should I react... some senior member find girl with big boob as a boat design fantasy? And yet attained fame by bullying other who are silent and reviewing the forum? Above post seem to be the norm of offensive discussion. I am new and already felt something is missing... Friendship and helpfulness... Some thread are not answer to delibrate the caste system becausse they are Japaness or their are Indian? I see group only answer to their friends or peer and seem to ingnore the other..... This is a recommended forum by a friend... and now it seem the forum is hassel out by these group of people. I dont mind as I am new, but at least I can view as a new and outsider view of point. I think there are thousand of people feeling the same but not care to point out to the pofessional, meaning still a bit of respect but could run out... goodwill is a scared commodity these day

[Wellydeckhand]

The rule of forum and code of conduct do not applied to backstabbing member who gave me bad rep but do not give comment.......................... That is heroic........................................ I mean I have one because exposing Micheal jackson femane side of his and help Vega explained correctly what is poop. Is it fair?All this happened in Open discussion under non design thread................... this is racialist at work!!!!! I do not really care of the rep. but soon it get '0' someone hope I will be kicked of the forum unhonorable and spread the news to my country? This is distressful.

WellyIsSad

[marshmat]

Um... Welly, could you clarify what you mean there? Perhaps it's just the language barrier, but I'm not quite sure what you're trying to say. Are you saying that you feel we should not use the 'reputation' button?

[safewalrus]

Marshmat

I think what he means is somebody downgraded him a point and he's a littled pissed off about it 'cos they didn't tell him why (can't say I blame the guy - if your going to kick someone at least have the guts to say why! cowards we don't need! Cowardice belongs ashore with the landlubbers)

[SamSam]

Originally Posted by Wellydeckhand

I do not really care of the rep. but soon it get '0' someone hope I will be kicked of the forum unhonorable and spread the news to my country? This is distressful.

WellyIsSad

LOL Cheer up Welly! If you get kicked off I'm pretty sure you won't get branded on your forehead or anything like that and if the rest of your country gets disgusted with you, buy them all a beer or something, they'll get over it. Sam

[longliner45]

dont worry welly,,,,,,if you get kicked off Ill drink a few beers for you!

[H2O_BABIES]

So Poor Mr. Welly get free beer, Cheer up, I am new and scared but no worry, I think there are still alot of high regard on you.