Forum Reputation

[Frosty]

Cant any one see this is the destruction of the Forum, Its like a worm in your computer. It so open to reputation abuse,--Most can see it for what it is, some think it beneficial, ---rubbish. Oh well when the forum gets less and less active some one will work it out. Hey do you remember seeing Sadam Hussain with his military uniform on. All those medals that his Generals had awarded him.

[hansp77]

Jack, I sypathise with your frustration.
I am of the opinion that if anyone is going to go to the effort of giving a negative rep, then they MUST also go to the effort of giving you a decent explanation.
Seriously, what is the point otherwise?
You play guessing games with yourself, maybe it was this, maybe that.

Maybe we could make some silly name for this sort of behaviour (just to make the system even more confusing for the beginner
eg. "Someone just gave me UNP?" (Unexplained Negative Reputation)

I am not sure it is completely useless though.
We must give Jeff the freedom to manage the sight as he sees fit.
And beware! talking about Sadam Hussain in a reference to high reps??
Thems negative rep words me thinks!

I think also that normal members should be able to give positive, but not to take away.
Maybe there could be system where a post could be reported, and a moderator would decide if a negative rep was deserved or not. It would be a much higher maintanence system, but at least one could feel that a third party had verified it, rather than it was just a personal dislike.

In the end though, it is just a number, so if you don't like it- like me- then just try to ignore the damn thing. People will be people, and some people have always preferred to settle their grievences by stabbing others in the back down dark alleyways (maybe a bit dramatic ) rather than confronting them face to face.
Sure the system can be abused, but (as Jeff saw it) 'something had to be done.'
And it is 'his place' that we are using.
It is not all that bad.
I just use the system as I would like it to be used. If I like someones post, and efforts, I give them positive rep, if I don't like their post, then I tell them why, in a post, or in a personal message, or I just ignore it- I don't give negative rep. Or at least not yet... [EDIT- I think…]

[Frosty]

Well I am still here,-- I havent been banned yet,-I suppose it will be a few hours before our Americam friends get out of bed. Then they will be shocked at my reference to ---who was it? and slander my reputation to minus 10.
Now there an Idea,-- minus reputation? Reserved for absalute ****** ( RAM)who have no idea about keeping a post in line with its thread, Rabbling on about there equipoise 3 blader and their wifes hemmeroids in a thread named "carberettor adjustments" Any way thanks hansp and you welly for the only 3 points I ever got, sorry I lost one already( dam I wish I knew why)
When I first started this forum thing I didnt know what a thread was or post. I probably put a few threads in the wrong post. But heaven forbid any one doing that these days. This henous crime carries severe penanlties. There are actually some people that have over 120 reps, If this trial period has been running for only 1 month,- then thats,-- well 4 per day.Oh Oh I am thinking about that man again. Sorry ,sarcasm is one of my best attributes.
I agree with you hansp 100%-- Funny though Although quite frankly I dont give a dam ,it is the reputation that I look at first when I fire up the ole forum in the mornings, can we really say we dont care? of course we care. When your old and retired and no longer have a job or position in life, your reputation is all you have. Young people will not understand but to give a man a medal is one thing but to take it back Whooa, its the most,--- well you know what I mean. It a sensative thing to tamper with, but it shouldnt be there for just any one to tamper with.

[Figgy]

Originally Posted by hansp77

just try to ignore the damn thing.

I try, but I can't. I got knocked once for something stupid, a bunch of us have. We say something that someone takes out of context, or doesnt understand and we get hit for it. I try not to give out neg. points, but when I do, it's for a good reason, (i.e. bad conduct) and I tell them why.
Now, do we pay more credence to the person with a 70 rep than the person with 9? THATS where the point system might fail us. Oh well tho'. This is Jeffs house, when I come to Jeffs house, I follow his rules. If I dont like it, I can leave. To me its a small price to pay. I guess I just rehashed Hansp77s' post, sorry Hans.
I can tell you this tho', I do alot less posting now.

Originally Posted by hansp77

UNP (Unexplained Negative Reputation)

HAHA!! Thats great! I'm going to use it

[hansp77]

Ok guys,
I admit,
I do care too. I just try not to care.
It does bother me to loose Rep.
For the plebs, like me, it really is hard to earn, and damn easy to loose.
You go to so much effort (which I don't mind to say I enjoy) to help people, and one day your rep creeps up. You feel good, encouraged, and thankfull to the person who has acknowledged your efforts.
Then you say one thing that is silly or misunderstood, or make a joke (Jack, beware of that sarcasm, it has got me in more trouble than anything else) and you get slapped with a UNP. You feel discouraged, you have no avenue of recompense, and you feel a bit insulted.

I know what you mean about posting less. I certainly do. But hey, maybe for me that is a good thing, as I am no expert, and usually have better things that I should be doing with my time.

But, I like this place alot, otherwise I wouldn't keep coming back.
Hans.

[Frosty]

Hey I got some more points,look everybody I got 15 now. I want points gimme gimme gimme. I dont care about helping any more,- gimme points. What did I say what did I do,--ille say it again.
Your probably right about my sarcasm, but I thank you for the points, I know your intitials sir but dont know who you are, I suppose I am to keep it anonimous are'nt I. However I fear I will have lost most of them by the days end.

[DanishBagger]

Yup, the reputation points are a joke.

While I have been away, it seems to have evolved into what we (the opposers) thought it would. A platform to punish those "we" do not like, and pad the ones we like on the shoulder. It is by no means "useful", except for the people bullying. I know that you have to "spread" it out, so it will take some time before someone can give you yet another negative rep, but time hasn't shown that time itself stops bullying.

[Frosty]

I have just been deducted one single point,, Obviously some one new, who thinks am am too arrogant!!! attached to a post about my friends death in America.

I talk straight and precise and say whay I think-- thats not arrogance.

I have 47 now-- My reputation is now a bit emabrasing. With 47 and 1500 posts I look like a prick.
I have decided to no longer give away free advice of my 40 years of boating and as a profesional engineer.

I shall now continue to talk utter bollocks with a few mates who also I strongly suspect have done the same.

I dont see Gonzo around much any more iether.

Sensative? maybe --I would prefer a little appreciation thats all,-- not a kick in the balls

[Bergalia]

Originally Posted by Frosty

I have just been deducted one single point

Oh stop whining you little prat...I've just given you one of my own to replace it...now don't go losing it....

[Bergalia]

Originally Posted by Frosty

....This is bollocks and I am deducting points from Jeff . Reason being --unable to run a forum.

Oh stop whingeing Frosty. You know very well you can't deduct points from Jeff, he's now modelling for 'Latex and Leather'

[marshmat]

I can't help but notice that this thread keeps repeating itself.
Is the point system perfect? No. Does whining about it help matters? Not really. Do constructive suggestions offer hope for a system everyone likes a bit more? Yes, so I will begin by suggesting that we avoid complaining for the sake of complaining, and offer solutions.
If people feel that someone new to the forum with hardly any postings has too much effect on the rep points, let's propose that the threshold post count before you can affect rep. be increased. There are solutions to every problem and every argument, if we're willing to work together to find them.

[Jeff]

I did note why I gave you negative rep points. As I said, I didn't think this was a very nice attitude, nor healthy for the community:

Originally Posted by Frosty

I have decided to no longer give away free advice of my 40 years of boating and as a profesional engineer.

I shall now continue to talk utter bollocks with a few mates who also I strongly suspect have done the same.

Having worked on building this since 1999, I also found your tone to be unnecessarily rude to the point of being insulting.

Originally Posted by Frosty

This is bollocks and I am deducting points from Jeff . Reason being --unable to run a forum.

Questioning is always fine -- I certainly can't promise I'll always agree or have the tools to immediately implement them, but I very much appreciate the suggestions and input. Being downright rude I do not appreciate.

[Bergalia]

Originally Posted by Frosty

....I am deducting points from Jeff . Reason being --unable to run a forum.
I feel like I am going over the top here, yet still feel right in this.

Frosty, much as I 'love' you, as indeed I do my dog which has worms and goat which eats my roses...You have gone way over the top.
Jeff, bless his elastic stockings and aura of 'wintergreen' is doing a job that few of us would willingly attempt. From what I can see he's done a magnificent job holding this forum together containing as it does such a wide and diverse collection of experts, amateurs, has-beens, would-be's and just plain nuts like you and I.
Attack your fellow forum members - they're ugly enough to defend themselves. But Jeff has to remain in the background - a moderating hand - neutral in all postings. It's a job neither you nor I would tackle with relish. Now - go to your room and don't come out until you're ready to apologise...and don't put your tongue out at me young man....

(PS Jeff - don't forget those five points you promised me....

[Poida]

I personally reckon Jeff's doing a great job, wizz bang, you beaut, damn ripper, bonza, cracker, awesome and OK.

I'm sure as Jeff can take points off for being rude he can give points to those who praise him.

Did I mention you are doing a great job Jeff?

Poida

[Bergalia]

Hey Poida - I'll do the grovelling if you don't mind....