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Old 04-17-2006, 08:43 AM
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oh! Im sorry! i didnt see thats how it went in. I know Welly didnt say that...oops I quote by hand. not sure how to use the little box.
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Old 04-17-2006, 08:47 AM
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The problem is, before the reputation system, nothing happened until things reached a boiling point. Most people don't want to confront another member when they feel they are "slightly over the line" so nothing is said until things are way over the line. Or we simply lose members who have a lot of valuable information because it is not worth the hassle and time to either:
1.) try to read through bickering, off-topic, insulting, or non-substantitive junk posts, or
2.) spend their time confronting other posters
A recent example of my point would be the logo/avatar discussion. I too found that offensive, but all things equal, what accomplished the change of it? An argument as to why it felt "wrong". A little communication and that was it.
If people take that as "confrontation", then something is wrong, frankly. It's a matter of stating what one believes in, instead of just simply putting people down. If people really feel they are insulted, and not just want to put someone else down, they should also be willing to make an effort. Otherwise I doubt they really care.
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Old 04-17-2006, 08:48 AM
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oh! Im sorry! i didnt see thats how it went in. I know Welly didnt say that...oops I quote by hand. not sure how to use the little box.

Press the quote button instead, that way it goes automatically

When I quote several posts, I open each quote in a new tab, reply to the first one, copy/paste it into the next and so forth, and only post the last one.

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Old 04-17-2006, 08:57 AM
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Uhm, sorry about the off-topicness of the avatar-discussion, but I figured that if it a little communication worked, it could be used as an example. I could have IM'ed him instead, but in order to use it as an example of how the system has an inherent tendency to take away proper communication, it should be out in the open.

The off-topicness of quoting was, well, simply a mistake.
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Old 04-17-2006, 09:00 AM
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No worries I think Jeff understand you.......... SeaSpark and me suffer a Bad Rep...... and I feel ok.
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Old 04-17-2006, 09:12 AM
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... seems that since I approved of several member's posts several weeks ago, I'm not allowed to leave any feedback on any posts by said members anymore. "You must spread some reputation around before giving it to xxxxx again..." well, I've left both + and - comments on many many posts since then; how many posts do I have to approve of before the system will actually work? .
I agree with Marshmat on this. I think you have to modify something in your system. I understand your intention to prevent "friendly rewards", but if we can not in true justice reward informative and interesting posts, what is the point?

Take an example. I have learned a lot with this post. I want to give a much deserved positive feedback to this post:
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8 points ! Someone took umbrage did they? you really should learn to behave yourself

On a wooden boat it depends on the ballast material attached. If its cast iron then galvanised mild steel bolts are the best. If it's lead then Monel or Silicon-Bronze should be used but never stainless steel (neither 304 or 316).

On other hulls it's a different story and stainless is at times required. but the propensity of wooden hulls to soak makes them prone to causing the failure of stainless steels in short order.

Also as Danish bagger says ....titanium would be ok if you can find the $$$.

Incidently remember that the cut thread is a stress raiser so never use threaded rod always thread the ends of round bar.

Cheers
.....and I get the "You must spread some reputation around before giving it to xxxxx again..."
I donīt remember when I gave another positive feedback to Mikejones, but I can say that if I have given it, it was because I have found it deseved it, not him, put the post. That is not the first time that this has happened to me., I mean the story of :"You must spread some reputation around before giving it to xxxxx again..."
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Old 04-17-2006, 09:27 AM
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Yes, it happen to me.......... when we want to give it to someone, take a couple of hours, we would have forgotten where the post is anyway.....
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Old 04-17-2006, 10:02 PM
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thanks for puttin up with us jeff,,,,,,longliner
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Old 04-17-2006, 10:45 PM
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thanks for puttin up with us jeff,,,,,,longliner
I'll second that. Thanks Jeff!
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Old 04-18-2006, 01:07 AM
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I suggested in 'Forum/Rules...' thread to allow the reputation giving/taking of points to be done only at the technical forums but not in the Community ones, as nature of discussions here may rise somewhat the temperature...

This post disappeared and Jeff told me it was moved to this thread, but I do not find it

Also disappeared an agreeing answer from Dannisbagger (I have no copy of it), at least another one (I don't remember the content) and this Mike the Walrus' one:
"Again you make great sense. If we must have this God awful system, as you say it should only cover the technical section - the open section which can and does cover some quite provocitave subjects can esily loose people through the likes or dislikes of the minority! Well said!"
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Old 04-18-2006, 01:11 AM
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It's many pages back in this very thread:
http://www.boatdesign.net/forums/sho...3846#post83846
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Old 04-18-2006, 01:21 AM
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It's many pages back in this very thread:
http://www.boatdesign.net/forums/sho...3846#post83846
Sorry, Jeff. Thanks.
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Old 04-18-2006, 09:07 PM
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how about if it takes 3 or 5 members to issiu a point,,,,,,,? no ganging
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Old 04-19-2006, 05:52 PM
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And how can you tell if several members are NOT ganging? especially if they have ganged before, why has this particular point suddenly become an issue when before it was about trying to get rid of someone who says he don't like your hair colour or whatever?

'Fraid I still don't like it! Yeah to a certain extent it's OK in the technical side (if you are faceless, don't know or don't have any experience, stay off the net but what if you have. and more to the point what IF somebody sez I'm going to do such and such any opinions - and everybody is scared of the points system and this guy thinks "well nobody has said anything, so it must be OK I'll go and do it!"

Post from his wif er widow a couplea days later " the old man won't be posting again you guys said it was OK to ...., so he did and now he's dead! how do I tell his six children? and feed em? wwe have no welfare in this country!"

Sorry I'm not allowed to think like this but .....what if
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Old 04-19-2006, 05:58 PM
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see your point man.....longliner
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