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Old 12-04-2011, 07:21 PM
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Location: china is great and interesting !!
What new !! Twaron ??

Twaron something new ?? anyone heard of it and had anything to do with it yet ??
comes in a couple of colors Black and gold ! can it be used in building hulls and decks

Seems like its used exstensively for ropes etc etc . couldnt find anyone using in in Construction of hulls in place of Kevlar . would could and should be used in conjunction with epoxy because of its supperior strength and streachability !
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Old 12-04-2011, 10:45 PM
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Twaron something new ?? anyone heard of it and had anything to do with it yet ??
comes in a couple of colors Black and gold ! can it be used in building hulls and decks

Seems like its used exstensively for ropes etc etc . couldnt find anyone using in in Construction of hulls in place of Kevlar . would could and should be used in conjunction with epoxy because of its supperior strength and streachability !
I read somewhere recently it is being used in sail manufacture, vaguely recall that it is an aramid fibre same as Kevlar with a different brand name. The article was about sails so didnt say if it is used for laminating of solid structures.
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Old 12-04-2011, 11:30 PM
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I believe its a fibre related to kevlar.
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Old 12-05-2011, 03:52 AM
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I read somewhere recently it is being used in sail manufacture, vaguely recall that it is an aramid fibre same as Kevlar with a different brand name. The article was about sails so didnt say if it is used for laminating of solid structures.
Ok I found the article - it is in Austrailian Sailing Magazine only last month
Kevlar is a Dupont tradename
Twaron is Teijin tradename

They are both members of the Aromatic Amides family (Aramids)
Presumably it could also be woven into a cloth for laminating as is Kevlar49 (perhaps it already is), but if the tradename is the only difference then there is nothing new going on here.
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Old 12-05-2011, 06:51 AM
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I just saw it and struck my interest so its just for crdage and ropes etc almost the same as Kevler just differant .as you say same but differant manufacturer ! Interesting !!

Thanks everyone !!

Xmas is just around the corner and will be insight before we know it .
Living in a land that dosent observe xmas and all the good things i have a little educating to do with my chinese friends in the next wee while , any excuse for a knees up is all thats needed !!
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Old 12-05-2011, 07:11 AM
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Twaron has been around for years, its not a new product, its just an aramid fiber made by a different company in Japan. As JRD has said, Kevlar is a Du Pont trade name for their aramid fiber.
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Old 12-05-2011, 02:17 PM
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Skater has been using Twaron aramid fabrics in there build since 06 or 07 . http:www.teijinaramid.com/aramids/twaron/ or http://teijinaramid.com/applications/composites/
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Old 12-05-2011, 04:08 PM
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It's been around since the late 80's to my knowledge and was Akzo Nobel's competitor to Kevlar.

It's now owned by Teijin but still made in Holland (IIRC)?.
I even think Teijin have changed the name and it's no longer marketed as Twaron?

It was certainly heavily advertised in the Yachting press 20 years ago.
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Old 12-06-2011, 07:13 AM
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Indeed, both Kevlar(r) and Twaron(r) are aramides, and are used in the same applications.

The Twaron dept of Akzo was bought by Teijin, which previously marketed the same product as "Technora" which also came in a black colour, to prevent the breakdown from UV.

In boating fibers, everything is a mismash of Kevlar, Twaron and Technora.

One of the main markets is cables, specifically optical fiber cables.
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Old 12-06-2011, 07:21 AM
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And Spectra ? Is it a boatbuilding fiber ?
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Old 12-06-2011, 08:11 AM
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And Spectra ? Is it a boatbuilding fiber ?
Yes it is and if you like check out the links in my post #7
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Old 12-06-2011, 03:43 PM
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Twaron is old stuff

It's been around a long time. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twaron
Catanas been using Twaron for years. http://www.catana.com/en/technology/technology.html
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Old 12-06-2011, 06:06 PM
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Bob , yes it has been around for many years ,and i am very well aware of that fact but .............high performance boat Co's that are using different composites in there build have been forced to make changes in there fabrics because of availabilty .
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