Split mold for hull

[Sam III]

I am working on the design of a center line split mold for a sail boat.

Mold will have normal flange on the centerline.

How do you build the 'seam/joint' so that a large parting line of gel coat does not build up when you spray it in?

Thanks

Sam

[Landlubber]

No big deal, but you do normally get a line from the split, it is however a built up line so it is easy to just sand off. If you made the mould very carefully the sand off line would of course be smaller, but in reality it simply just does not matter.

Sometimes we put tape over the seam line, but for a hull, we just sand it off.

[ratrace2]

Originally Posted by Sam III

I am working on the design of a center line split mold for a sail boat.

Mold will have normal flange on the centerline.

How do you build the 'seam/joint' so that a large parting line of gel coat does not build up when you spray it in?

Thanks

Sam

Fill it in with modeling clay, chavant, or something like that.....just firm enough and non-reactive to mold-release and Gel....

[Sam III]

Any suggestions for 'parting board'? Thinking of using particle board and putting a couple of coats of primer on it before release agent.

Thoughts?

[ratrace2]

Originally Posted by Sam III

Any suggestions for 'parting board'? Thinking of using particle board and putting a couple of coats of primer on it before release agent.

Thoughts?

Sam,
na, that will never work, too rough. It, the resin, will just pull it apart.
Only if you wrapped 6Mil poly around plywood could you use it as a parting plane. You have to have a smooth, non-pourous surface. Something like metal tape, like they use to repair trucks, with the sticky tar on one side and the aluminium, thick, foil on the other..If you coulg get some plexyglass that would work and spray it with PVA, Mold release.

[Sam III]

What about 'Melamine faced' board?

Sam

[ratrace2]

Originally Posted by Sam III

What about 'Melamine faced' board?

Sam

Sam,
Sure, just test a little first. Use a good smooth coat of PVA sprayed on it.
Remember, test, test, test everything a little bit.

[ratrace2]

I think there is a better way:
Listen, build your plug and then glass it. OK, now you have your mold.
Now, build up a flange from bow to stern, then cut the mold in half.
The kerf of a sawzall is approx. 1/16th inch. No one will notice the size reduction in your boat. Or, just put a formica shim between the mold haves to restore the dimensions.
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THE FLANGE: I like to use hardwood like Rock maple, or oak. Make the flange approx 4 inches high and about 2 inches wide. Drill holes through your flange 1/4" dia. every 12 inches should do it.

[juiceclark]

We're using the back, very smooth side of vinyl siding. You can buy it for nothing at Home Depot or Lowes and nothing sticks to it...especially with quick release on it.

I'll try to find a pic or two of how we did it for our 50'.
Tony in Sw FL

[ratrace2]

Originally Posted by juiceclark

We're using the back, very smooth side of vinyl siding. You can buy it for nothing at Home Depot or Lowes and nothing sticks to it...especially with quick release on it.

I'll try to find a pic or two of how we did it for our 50'.
Tony in Sw FL

Juice,
where did you find that vinyl siding? Years ago, I looked all over HD for the same applications, couldn't find "that".
Need "Pics'....bad.

[Sam III]

Originally Posted by juiceclark

We're using the back, very smooth side of vinyl siding. You can buy it for nothing at Home Depot or Lowes and nothing sticks to it...especially with quick release on it.

I'll try to find a pic or two of how we did it for our 50'.
Tony in Sw FL

I was also thinking about the smooth finished 4' x 8' Thrifty White Tileboard

Model 346428
SKU 346428

http://contractorservices.homedepot....c-7147640e84bb

from Home Depot as well. As it is only 1/8" hardboard was planning to glue to 1/4" luan ply for some stiffness.

Sam

[ratrace2]

Originally Posted by Sam III

I was also thinking about the smooth finished 4' x 8' Thrifty White Tileboard

Model 346428
SKU 346428

http://contractorservices.homedepot....c-7147640e84bb

from Home Depot as well. As it is only 1/8" hardboard was planning to glue to 1/4" luan ply for some stiffness.

Sam

Well, if that is the case, why don't you just use some "flashing" and 3M it to the Luan....

[waikikin]

Sam, I use melamine faced particle board succeessfully- attach to brackets of same using "hot melt" glue - it shaves off with razor blade easily later. Regards from Jeff.

[juiceclark]

I was out at the mold today. They have it split in two because they're polishing the tooling gel on the mold. So, the little piece in the middle was removed and I forgot to ask exactly what it was and where they got it. I'm pretty sure it was from Lowes and was a piece of flat, white and smooth vinyl(very thin)...could be flashing but looked like siding without the flange along the edge. I'll ask tomorrow and give you an update.

[ratrace2]

Originally Posted by juiceclark

I was out at the mold today. They have it split in two because they're polishing the tooling gel on the mold. So, the little piece in the middle was removed and I forgot to ask exactly what it was and where they got it. I'm pretty sure it was from Lowes and was a piece of flat, white and smooth vinyl(very thin)...could be flashing but looked like siding without the flange along the edge. I'll ask tomorrow and give you an update.

Juice,
Problem, I think this guy is working with a plug, not a "female" mold. Sure, you just slam the mold halves shut against the "vinyl siding/parting plane".
Maybe we should find out what this guy is working with???

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are you working with a plug....what kind of "stuff" are you doing. Care to lay some "context", background for your efforts?