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Old 10-31-2010, 04:54 PM
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just wondering if anyone would have attempted to infuse a hull of a catemeran upside down. The hull was damaged in high winds and delaminated big time in the tunnel and they need it fixed by infusing it from the outside.
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Old 10-31-2010, 06:35 PM
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just wondering if anyone would have attempted to infuse a hull of a catemeran upside down. The hull was damaged in high winds and delaminated big time in the tunnel and they need it fixed by infusing it from the outside.
No problem ,my stuff is upside down on the jigs.
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Old 11-01-2010, 07:22 PM
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this cat is all finished inside it has to be fixed from the outside going in without tearing everything out from the inside
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Old 11-01-2010, 10:05 PM
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this cat is all finished inside it has to be fixed from the outside going in without tearing everything out from the inside
Should be no problem,look molded boats are infused everyday,I fail to see a issue here.
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Old 11-02-2010, 02:21 PM
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this cat is all finished inside it has to be fixed from the outside going in without tearing everything out from the inside
Just curious,

why would you turn the boat to get the job done?
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Old 11-02-2010, 03:24 PM
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Turning a finished and used boat upside down can become messy (tanks, engine, etc) but for the infusion there is not a problem at all.

You could also use spray glue to hold the fabrics upsidedown against the hull. Once the bag is on, it will not fall down. Multihull laminates are not that thick usually.
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Old 11-02-2010, 05:28 PM
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Turning a finished and used boat upside down can become messy (tanks, engine, etc) but for the infusion there is not a problem at all.

You could also use spray glue to hold the fabrics upsidedown against the hull. Once the bag is on, it will not fall down. Multihull laminates are not that thick usually.
hey thats a good idea never thought of that . oh this has a foam core would that cause a problem.
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Old 11-02-2010, 05:34 PM
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use spray glue to hold the fabrics ...yep, there is a special glue make just for that very thing, have a read of the DIAB website, we used em in China for the very same thing.
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Old 11-02-2010, 06:18 PM
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hey thats a good idea never thought of that . oh this has a foam core would that cause a problem.
In general not, BUT........

Are you sure the foam is still sticking to the inner shell? No, you arenīt. That is your main problem, not the way to apply the new layup.

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Old 11-06-2010, 03:16 PM
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Good repairs need thorough examination.

For the spray glue it is not a problem to keep fibers to foam core.

I have some reports on the spray glue I sell which claim that ILSS losses are within the normal deviation of the test results. Or in plain words: they were not able to determine a loss.

On infusing upside down: I recently supervised some pipe repairs (joint reinforcement), and as you can understand, half of the infusion was up-side-down. No problem at all. A bit fiddly at times, but nothing to worry about.
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Try this: http://www.ok2spray.com/index.php Nice stuff.
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Old 11-07-2010, 01:40 AM
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Or these:

http://www.northstarchemicals.com
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Old 11-07-2010, 07:35 AM
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I have used Infuzene for years and on some tough complex jobs.
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