Boat Design Forums  |  Boat Design Directory  |  Boat Design Gallery  |  Boat Design Book Store  |  Thanks to Our Site Sponsors

Go Back   Boat Design Forums > Construction > Boatbuilding > Fiberglass and Composite Boat Building
Register FAQ Members List Calendar Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
  #1  
Old 07-22-2010, 12:28 PM
olliric olliric is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: May 2009
Rep: 10 Posts: 18
Location: Canada/Italy
composite chainplates

We have just about finished modeling a 49' performance cruising cat. I want to build composite chainplates for the shrouds. In the location for the shrouds there is no bulkhead so I have to build a partial bulkhead or just attached it to the side panel. I wonder if somebody can give some advice or pointer.
Here is a basic spec for the boat
Displacement 9 t fully loaded.
draft at 9t .57m
Sail area 120 m2.
Fractional rig with upper and lower shrouds
Dagger boards,
Epoxy foam duflex panel construction

Thanks
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 07-22-2010, 01:26 PM
gonzo's Avatar
gonzo gonzo is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Rep: 1493 Posts: 7,447
Location: Milwaukee, WI
You need an engineering study and design. Do you mean you designed the boat by "modeling". If so, structural points should follow from the structural design.
__________________
Gonzo
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 07-22-2010, 01:39 PM
Herman's Avatar
Herman Herman is offline
Resininfusion.info
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Rep: 1043 Posts: 1,268
Location: The Netherlands
Why are there no bulkheads where the stays should go?

anyhow, the basic principle is to create some stainless pipes with flanges on the ends, and align them properly. Then go over them a number of times with UD glass or carbon, and spread out the tails of the UD over a bulkhead or something else structural.

After the work you can cut one or 2 slots in the tube, put your stays in, and put a pin in the tube.

It needs engineering, though, although it is pretty simple.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 07-23-2010, 08:41 AM
Herman's Avatar
Herman Herman is offline
Resininfusion.info
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Rep: 1043 Posts: 1,268
Location: The Netherlands
A nice link:

http://members.cox.net/building.galene/Chainplates.html
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 07-23-2010, 08:08 PM
olliric olliric is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: May 2009
Rep: 10 Posts: 18
Location: Canada/Italy
We have bought the boat plan and modeled with CAD to customize it. The original plan locates the shrouds chainplates on the bulkhead between the saloon and cockpit which is too far aft for good mainsail trim so I want to move them forward where there is no complete structural bulkhead. I need to have the chain plate attached to the side panel instead of on the transverse bulkhead.


Quote:
Originally Posted by gonzo View Post
You need an engineering study and design. Do you mean you designed the boat by "modeling". If so, structural points should follow from the structural design.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 07-23-2010, 08:22 PM
olliric olliric is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: May 2009
Rep: 10 Posts: 18
Location: Canada/Italy
In my other reply I explain why there is no bulkhead. In the plan for the boat I have the details for the chainplates that go on the transverse bulkhead. Now I need to figure out the changes involved in laminating the chainplates on the side panel and probably install some additional member possibly in the direction of the shrouds load.
Thanks for the nice link

Quote:
Originally Posted by Herman View Post
Why are there no bulkheads where the stays should go?

anyhow, the basic principle is to create some stainless pipes with flanges on the ends, and align them properly. Then go over them a number of times with UD glass or carbon, and spread out the tails of the UD over a bulkhead or something else structural.

After the work you can cut one or 2 slots in the tube, put your stays in, and put a pin in the tube.

It needs engineering, though, although it is pretty simple.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 07-23-2010, 10:50 PM
olliric olliric is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: May 2009
Rep: 10 Posts: 18
Location: Canada/Italy
Do you know anyone that could do the study and design? Any idea of how much it would cost?
I think that with a few hints and some common sense I could build strong enough chainplates but they will probably be overbuild. If the cost is reasonable I would love to take the guess work out of the picture.

Quote:
Originally Posted by gonzo View Post
You need an engineering study and design. Do you mean you designed the boat by "modeling". If so, structural points should follow from the structural design.
Reply With Quote
Reply



Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Composite Chainplates mikereed100 Fiberglass and Composite Boat Building 20 06-18-2009 02:29 AM
Composite chainplates tbot Fiberglass and Composite Boat Building 15 08-07-2008 08:45 PM
alloy chainplates gramos Boat Design 5 04-21-2008 11:00 PM
glassing in chainplates bluwateronly Sailboats 13 02-11-2008 12:50 PM
chainplates Lunde Wooden Boat Building and Restoration 0 10-08-2005 01:02 PM


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 09:22 AM.


Powered by: vBulletin Copyright ©2000 - 2012, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Web Site Design and Content Copyright ©1999 - 2012 Boat Design Net