Chinese Boatbuilders??

[genuinemarine]

Originally Posted by lazeyjack

you know, boatbuilding is a very personal business, a man and his boat
In the Western world, a lie is the worst crime of all
I think Chinese are not so honest
Along with Turks
I recently tried start yachtbuilding in the latter, and found nothing but lies
No I would not trust Chinese, full of lies and ********, as seen in the GAMES
But make no mistake, they will one day rule the world

Lazeyjack, what makes you think Chinese are not so honest? You actually experienced it or you just think?

[genuinemarine]

Originally Posted by Butch .H

"David" and "James" are the same idiot

Butch, To be honest with you you are not even qualified as an Idiot!!! I would bet more people in the industry would think David and I are smarter and richer than you.

[genuinemarine]

Hi, David, my friend,

Sorry I did not reply to you last thread in time but I had been very busy in the last couple of weeks.

I am thinking how many of you in this conversation have really actually involved themselves in the yacht building industry especially those like Butch.....

I have been in the yacht building industry from 2001 and initially I was building and selling yachts in a local yard then started my own business of selling marine parts in China together with my American parnter to whom I sold my first boat. I do not like the quality of the boats the yard built and that is the major reason I decided to set up my own business. Of course quality is a big issue for many yacht builders and some foreign people did have very bad experience for which I want to appology. But let us do not forget other good yards who are building Choeylee, Nordhavn, Selene, Jefferson, Ocean Alexlander, Hampton, Horizon, Monte Fino, HI-Star, Marlow, Trader, Queenship, Island Pilot, Kadey Krogen..... Just name a few (Somebody might want to say: wait a minute some of these boats are being built by Taiwanese who would not admit they were Chinese ignoring the fact that they have the same color of skin, use the same language, letters, traditions, cultures as well as their coutry name: Republic of China).


What puzzled me a lot is that I found many western people who have been building boats in China for years rarely involve themselves in this kind of topic and spread those subjective comment like somebody did here.

Bill Kimley, an American and owner of Seahorse Yachts in China has been building quality steel yachts for years. We know each other for a long time and everytime we see each other he is so nice.

David Winter, an American and owner of Red Dragon Yachts in China has been building yachts in China for a few years. We are very good friends and he never has that kind of hard feeling.

I am guessing what are the oppions of those guys who are building Ocean Alexander, Horizon, Selene, Nordhavn ..... about China.

Maybe they are also not smart just like David and I. Maybe we should invite some of them to join this conversation to be fair for all of us.

On the other hand, I am guessing that maybe Mr Butch has been living and building boats in China for years. He should know the yacht industry very well otherwise he should never talk like an expert about China yacht industry and act like he is smartest in the forum. So Mr Butch could you please brief everybody in this forum more in details about your China experience?

[the1much]

Originally Posted by genuinemarine

Butch, To be honest with you you are not even qualified as an Idiot!!! I would bet more people in the industry would think David and I are smarter and richer than you.

dude,, aint noone here calling you names,, we're giving opinions,,,,want to debate?,, im thinking its time for you ta shut ta F up.
wanna get personal?,, i bet my bank account that i'd make you look like a poor bustard in ANY country,,,wanna bet? , and just cause you may have built a floating dock,, dont make ya a boat builder. now go get some rice and chew on it.

[Butch .H]

Good night James.Try bronze and not brass in your fittings it lasts longer. I guess that is what you can expect from some one who takes 30 days to pay his creditors James my winky is bigger than your winky.

[genuinemarine]

Originally Posted by the1much

dude,, aint noone here calling you names,, we're giving opinions,,,,want to debate?,, im thinking its time for you ta shut ta F up.
wanna get personal?,, i bet my bank account that i'd make you look like a poor bustard in ANY country,,,wanna bet? , and just cause you may have built a floating dock,, dont make ya a boat builder. now go get some rice and chew on it.

Buddy, I do not buy the way somebody give opinions here and so let us debate to figure out who is bla bla bla here.

I am amatured enough to avoid getting personal but if somebody starts it on me I do not care to play the game. You talk like Bill Gates but this forum is somewhere we show and share knowledge in boats, this thread is somewhere we compare our fortune and smartness in true knowledge of building boats in China. If you want to show off your politics and money find somewhere else.

You have no idea of what boats we used to build so now stop thinking and imaging about China from thousand miles away. Do some homework!

[genuinemarine]

Originally Posted by Butch .H

Good night James.Try bronze and not brass in your fittings it lasts longer. I guess that is what you can expect from some one who takes 30 days to pay his creditors James my winky is bigger than your winky.

Good moring, Butch. I prefer stainless steel which is nicer and lasts much longer. Nobody cares about how long your winky is and what we care and expect from you in this thread is how much you really know about building boats in China.

So could you please spend a few minute in answering my above questions to justify your previous comments?

[the1much]

Originally Posted by genuinemarine

Buddy, I do not buy the way somebody give opinions here and so let us debate to figure out who is bla bla bla here.

I am amatured enough to avoid getting personal but if somebody starts it on me I do not care to play the game. You talk like Bill Gates but this forum is somewhere we show and share knowledge in boats, this thread is somewhere we compare our fortune and smartness in true knowledge of building boats in China. If you want to show off your politics and money find somewhere else.

You have no idea of what boats we used to build so now stop thinking and imaging about China from thousand miles away. Do some homework!

heh,, i never open my mouth before i do "my homework",, maybe you oughta stop living a dream and figure out maybe YOU should do your homework,,, wanna know my knowledge,, look up hinckleys, morriss , apogee's, and EVERY boat builder in downeast maine,,,,,you couldnt even start in them places as a floor sweeper,,,and YOUR the 1 talkin like gates,,YOU was the 1 tyhat wanted to compare bank accounts, YOU are the 1 that came on here asking ?'s about something you now say you are 1 of the best at doing,,, YOU are the 1 getting personal,,,,,should we go further?,, your BEST bet is to jus ignore me,,, or ill bring out just how good your work ISNT.

[Butch .H]

Hey Much what up man hows dem birds

[Butch .H]

James baby we carry(going to be carried) a numder of your products bud.Your l.e.d lights have mountings of brass.I can return them to you with your DC pannels for a refund. Plenty of comments posted on this site and you are stupid enough to single out the only one on this thread that imports(going to be imported) your product what a dumb ass

[the1much]

Originally Posted by Butch .H

Hey Much what up man hows dem birds

they keep changing hands,, i have em for a week or 2,, then out they go,, and i get more,,hehe ,, but MY personal birds are doing great ! i even caught a "lilac crowned amazon" 3 or 4 days ago in my tree hahaha,, stupid things sell between $800 , and 1400 ,,, how stupid are people,,hehe
hows all going with you?

[Butch .H]

Hey Much all good Old James baby has got me packing all his crap ready to ship back to the agents . What the hell is a "lilac crowned amazon". Sounds rough

[the1much]

sounds like a puss to me,, i hate telling people what he is hahaha

[Butch .H]

Proof Money does grow up in trees well hatch any way

[the1much]

selling him gonna be PURE PROFIT ,,, man i love those words hehe
oh,, ive sold another 142 birds today,,, ta hell with boat building hehe