Southampton Institute Vs. Southampton University

[Owen]

Dear all,

I am glad to have joined such an active and interesting forum.

I am particularly interested in the posts concerning the relative merits of the different degree level courses available in Southampton.

I am aware of both the uni and the institute, and am compelled to ask for other's opinions of why the institute alumni seem to have risen to the forte of their professions ( e.g. Ed Dubois, Rob Humphreys, and esp. German Frers jnr.), whereas the Universities alumni seem to have faded into the background?

What are your opinions and premises on this subject?

Owen;

[DavidG]

Owen,

I finished the institute course three years ago, having considered the Uni course.

As far as I know all those in my year who wanted to continue in the yacht design sector are in work and some are in top design offices.

I would suggest that;

The Institute course at that time was more vocational than the Uni course (which was very theoretical).

The Uni course appears more big ship than the Institute course.

The entry requirements are lower for the Institute course, therefore it is easier for a keep sailor with more basic maths to get on the course.

However if you can't keep up with the maths, you won't last the length of the course.

As you get older?!? you realise that the money and opportunities are limited in the small boat sector, you will find that a fair number of students from both degrees have pursued successful careers with people like Lloyd's, BMT etc. They might not get the glory but probably have a more secure living!

P.S. I don't think that Rob Humphreys did the Institute course.

[Owen]

I am going to be joining the Ship Science Meng at Southampton University in September '03. I shall keep you all posted about the content and quality of the course.

[2venns65]

Hello, I am currently doing the Yacht and powercraft design course at soton institute, i choose to do this because in belgium, where i come from there isn't such a course, specific for yachts an pleasure-craft (of course we also cover pilotboats etc)

there is also a course called yacht manufactering and survey at the institute wich is more about the manufacturing aspect of yachts then yacht and powercraft design and isnt BSC(HONS)
compaired to the other institute course as well as the uni one.

where as the uni course is a classical naval architecture course,
i have friends who are in the uni,one of them want's to stay in the yachting business and regrets not joining the institute.

my advice is if you want to do yachting and pleasurecraft and have a more specific knowledge of that industrie including design, rigging, tanktesting, and especialy composites etc: INSTITUTE

If you are more intrested in commercial craft like cargo's, tankers,etc and just want to cover a very small part of the yacht and powercraft industrie: the university

[Owen]

Only a few weeks to go before I can comment on your opinions of the university course, with lectures beginning early Oct. '03.

[SailDesign]

As an Institute alumnus (well, it was the College of Higher Education then) I can agree with DAvid G as to the relative merits.
My first job on graduating (1980) was with a commercial Naval Architect called Keel Marine up in Alton, 4 years of ships, tugs, workboats, etc. The calculations are all the same, but the numbers are bigger ;-)
I didn't find anything that they needed to be done that I was unable to do, which says a lot for the course at the Institute, IMNSHO.
Steve

[camotero]

Is the Southampton Institute everyone in this post is referring to the same as the Southampton Solent University? I haven't been able to find another Southampton Institute.

Thanks!

[Owen]

Yes it is.

[MS2010]

Hi,

I have an offer to study for a Master in Maritime Engineering Science at Southampton university but I'm unsure about whether I should take it. I would like to become a naval architect and design sailing boats for cruises or for racing (small crafts) but I am not sure which university would be best for that... I have read that UCL is more warship oriented and that Southampton would be more appropriate. I have read a lot of good comments about the Southampton Institute but I dont think they have Masters degree there... Also does anyone know about US grad schools?

Hope you can help me!

[SEAYMER]

Can anyone give me some guidance.

I am in Asia and I wish to study high performance hull and boat design, particularly warped and stepped hull technology. We have Naval Architect institutes, but no institutes that specialises in what seems to be a black art of high performance. Can anyone advise on any institutes providing education

Thanks

[SEAYMER]

Can anyone help. I am in Asia and I want to study with an institute that specailises in high speed hull and boat design. I work with small patrol craft up to 24metres and these are increasingly getting faster and more sophisticated and are now entering the realms of the Black Art of high speed technology with stepped and warped hulls