Hello & Westlawn vs YDS

[luckettg]

That is a good question. I sent an email a couple of weeks ago to see if I could continue the Rhino class I had paid for in advance. Work changed and I got too busy to deal with it until recently. I have not heard from them at all.

I tried calling them this morning about 0735 but got a msg that the phone number has temporarily been disconnected.

There was a msg on the website saying they were busy doing a boat delivery a couple of weeks ago, so I was not concerned about no hearing from them vial email.....but now I am. I am hoping they are just having phone problems. This could be affecting the emails too.

Incidently, the web site is up and running.

Greg Luckett

[sodaboy]

Well after months of working out what course is right for me, i choose YDS,

Was very excited to finally sign up, that was a few weeks ago, and have hurd nothing at all.

My credit card has not been billed, so i guess thats a positive lol

[luckettg]

At this point you might want to contact your credit card company and make sure a charge is not placed....at least until this is resolved. It does not speak well that a school or company has its phone disconnected nor reply to emails. I continue to hope it is just a temporary thing that has nothing to do with YDS other than a phone system out of order.

[luckettg]

This is posted on the website at http://www.macnaughtongroup.com/new.htm:
"09/05/2006 - We will be leaving today to deliver a boat up the coast, which should take somewhere around 6 days. During that time there will only be minimal and intermittent staff in the office. Design quotes, email, order confirmations, etc. will not be attended to in this time frame. It doesn't mean that we don't care! We normally work for you seven days a week, but just at the moment we need these few days. We apologize for the inconvenience. We will be taking existing emails, quotes, etc. with us to work on evenings as we go."

Maybe they are just overdue returning to business?

[Michael Chudy]

Greg -
To the best of my knowlwedge, Tom and Nan went to Rockport on 9/5 to sail a boat they have purchased, a little 22' Westerly twin keel, back to Eastport. Their web site said they planned to be gone about 6 days, but as of last Thursday they were only as far as Northeast Harbor(about 1/3 the way). I guess poor wind and lots of fog had slowed them down. Since then we have had a number of great sailing days, good wind and no fog, so they ought to be back pretty soon, but who knows. Why their phone is disconected is beyond me. If I hear anything else I'll post it.
Mike

[luckettg]

Michael,
That is great news. I must admit I was getting a bit worried about them and even called the local C of C to see if there was some sort of disaster, not knowing who else to call. This is a small town there and I figured if anything bad had occured, the Chamber would know of it. It was at that point I figured they were just overdue for some reason. On the bright side, things cannot be too bad for them if they are sailing, even slowly. The phone might just be a downed wire or a voice mail box too full.
Thanks for the update!
Greg Luckett

[Michael Chudy]

Tom and Nan are home and the phone is working.

[luckettg]

Michael,
This is good news, indeed. I wonder how rested they are and how much fun they had on the trip? I will give Tom a call tomorrow if there is time.
Greg Luckett

[Raggi_Thor]

Good to hear, I was a bit worried too.

[joz]

Would Westlawn or Mc Naughton's consider adding Ship and Submarine design as part of their course thus increasing possible employment opportunities for their students. I also know that it will increase in the fees which is to be expected with the added work which can lead to degree quilification.

any thoughts

[Raggi_Thor]

I think that ship design is very well covered on several universities.
In Norway you can study design of ships, fishing boats and floating structures (oil plattforms and fishfarms for example) but not small boats, recreational crafts and sailboats. Well you can study practically what you want in the last part of a master degree, but you will be on your own :-)

[Willallison]

In practical terms it simply wouldn't be possible for the Westlawn (or YDS) programs to cover ship or sub design. Quite apart from the specific engineering that is required, the course itself would need to be way too long - like several YEARS longer.
As Raggi said - there are any number of universities etc that cover the design of ships. Westlawn caters to a niche in the market

[joz]

the course itself would need to be way too long - like several YEARS longer.

Will, just 2 years longer is needed to become degree quilified. The reason that I post that question is that I saw in magazines and on the web about super yachts over 200' 0" long including extra large Motor Yachts that are being designed that are between 69 to 160 metres long and they are NOT passanger ships but motor yachts for the rich and famous.

Even I saw a sail training vessel that the German Navy is using called the Gorch Fock which is an 89.4 mt LOA, 12 Mt Bmax, 5.4 mt Draft and 1,900 tons displacement. (first pic)

Here are some other Pics that are over 69 metres LOA

69.5 metre Motor Yacht Aussie Rules
80 metre Motor Yacht
80.7 metre Motor Expedition Yacht
93 metre Motor Yacht
96 metre Motor Yacht
126 metre Motor Yacht
Lady Marina
Lender
Highlander 250 Pax
Mosaique Pop
Commitment
245 Foot Motor Yacht
503 Bug (Sailing Yacht)
503 Heck (Sailing Yacht)
Noa
Poloma 2
Pelorusrunning
Pic0
Queen Nefertiti
Reverine 5
Yacht Pic 1
Taipan 250 Pax
Prj-p51

[sailaweigh]

I've noticed that there is no activity at all on the YDS discussion group. Emails to them do not get answered either. Does anyone know what is going on there? Are they shut down?

[luckettg]

Have you tried calling?