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Old 09-29-2009, 10:21 PM
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Gathering Parts

I'm gathering parts, prices, and ideas, stay tuned. Pics, prices, links to come....

I couldn't have picked a worse time of year to build this damn thing... i gotta find the decoys.
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Old 10-01-2009, 02:09 AM
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Hmm, got the motor tonight from monster scooter parts... What else do I need in order to start this things? Switch, solenoid, etc?? I"m lost. Does anyone have any experience with these things? I ordered a kill switch and tank and didn't get it in the order, so I gotta call them...

Does anyone have any other suggestions on motors?
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Old 10-01-2009, 07:12 AM
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Kill switches are easy. Any (sealed for sparks) small toggle will do. Check your auto parts store for their assortment. Is it big enough for a starter motor? Otherwise just starter rope. If it has a starter motor, a momentary switch may be adequate. A solenoid may not be necessary for such a small engine.
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Old 10-01-2009, 11:34 AM
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Hmm, got the motor tonight from monster scooter parts... What else do I need in order to start this things? Switch, solenoid, etc?? I"m lost. Does anyone have any experience with these things? I ordered a kill switch and tank and didn't get it in the order, so I gotta call them...

Does anyone have any other suggestions on motors?
From a guiy who purchased the same motor you did

"As far as the motor, I got two conflicting answers so I'm not going to be much help other than the guy's screwed until he can find someone with the answers. I was told by the scooter store where I bought the motor "All I needed was a key switch between the red and black wires and the battery connection. Seemed simple but then I asked if I needed to have a fused system and the answer I got was "not nesseccary"! I wasn't getting a warm fuzzy feeling about that answer. I took my motor down to a scooter store here locally. The guy really didn't want to talk to me since I didn't buy the motor from him. I finally got him to explain that on the scooters there is a solenoid/amperage resistor that the key switch attaches to and the battery attaches to. He said without it I'd burn up the starter attached to the motor. I asked about the soleniod and what I needed. He said it depends on the scooter manufacturer. He wasn't going to offer any suggestions after I told him I was building a mud motor for a duck boat. I guess he was afraid of a liablity issue if the information was wrong."

Mark
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Old 10-01-2009, 11:48 AM
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Here is a picture of the starter motor that came with the electric start version of the motor from monsterscooterparts.com


What is that wire that is wrapped up supposed to go to. I know all dumb questions like mine need answered, so thanks in advance.

I assume that the red/black wires from the motor go to the battery, where a switch would be in between.
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Old 10-08-2009, 11:14 AM
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looks like a ground..? im guessing..good luck
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Old 10-08-2009, 04:47 PM
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ground my ass .....thats the live feed for the motor ...put the motor back on the engine put neg to engine case and positive to the lead from the starter . It should crank over ...BUT with a bike engine you need to be able to stop it once it starts ...the kill switch shorts out the ignition rather than turning it off llike a car ...so before you try to start it make sure you can stop it !!!

Your start cable should go through a solenoid but if you use a simple battery switch on/off that will be fine to turn the starter motor on and off
You will have to check out battery charging wires as you did not show them
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Old 10-09-2009, 02:55 AM
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Other wires

The only other two wires coming out of the engine are red and black...close to the spark plug...
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Old 10-09-2009, 01:47 PM
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As Pistinbroke pointed out the wire in the picture is you hot lead to the starter motor. I had the same electric starter on a scooter motor I built into a mini longtail. The starter button can be wired directly into the wiring on either the positive or negative lead to complete the circuit or you can utilize a starter solenoid /relay if you wish to put the starter button up on the handle. I would recommend using at least 8 guage wire for your ground cable. I have wired this same starter both ways with no problems. The red/black wires by the spark plug are the engine ground wires so you can shut it off when desired.
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Ground wire

Where would you recommend fastening the ground wire on the motor?
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to the motor frame
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hmmm

well that was a stupid question i suppose. Didn't realize how simple this stuff actually it... once again i make a mountain out of a mole hill... THANKS ALL
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Old 10-15-2009, 01:40 AM
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