Weed eater engine conversion

[ripped off]

Hey smoothseas, are those your plans I'm seeing on ebay?

[ripped off]

Ah yes, they are your plans. So the question that begs to be answered is this. Why after bashing my little motor several pages back while shouting your own praises as an areonautical engineer who knows what he's talking about, why are you now using a picture of MY motor as the gallery photo in your ebay ad???? I think OrphanedCowboy had your number right from the start. You tried to deceive people with your bogus claims of 8.8 HP from a 1 HP motor and now are trying to deceive people into thinking they are getting plans for MY motor (which I already gave out for free) all while still claiming 8.8 HP. Dirty pool mister. I demand you remove pictures of my motor from your ebay ads immediately and stop trying to use my reputation as a way to trick folks into buying your plans.

Heres a link to one of his ebay ads for the rest of you to see.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/PLANS...mZ330257792737

I may be way off base here but if I'm a person who has never been to this forum I'm gonna read that ad and look at that pic and think thats the motor I'm buying plans for. And if I'm a person who frequents the Refuge or Duckhunting Chat or several other websites where my stuff is posted, or has ever google searched "weedeater boat motor", I'm gonna recognize that little yellow motor as being associated with Ripped Off AKA Turn4fun, AKA Lying In Wait and then MY reputation will be tarnished when someone builds a 1 HP motor that is nothing more or less than a 1 HP motor thinking that they are getting almost 9 HP.

[wac m trac m]

Wow that stinks. Smoothseas did me right and sent me a prop for free. I cant use it though cause it is for a moter with a gear reduction. My set up would turn it the wrong way.
I dont get why He wouldn't just give up on selling plans for the moter. He already gave them away for free on here.

Ripped off, it's sad to see you've been done wrong. I have alot of respect for you. If it wasn't for your plans on here I wouldn't have what I built. I appreciate you generosity in putting your plans on here. I pretty much built a moter like yours but changed a few things. I have a few questions.
I used gear oil in my shaft and it leaks when the prop spins. Have you had that problem? I'm going to try tapping the aluminum tube for two grease fittings on each side of the center bearing and fill it with marine grease.

My other question is have you ever had problems with the mounts, handle bar and moter mount moving from the vibration? I grinded my shaft myself cause I couldn't find any machine shops in my area to do it. I did ok but when the shaft gets to spinning theres some decent vibration. What did you do to fix the problem?

Thanks again for your ideas. I appreciate your help. Your invited to Texas duck/deer/ hog/ quail/dove/ turkey anytime if your interested. Email sent.

[ben2go]

What about something like this using a weedeater engine or small mower engine instead of an electric motor.Read through the additional specs and photos for a better idea how it mounts and operates.
https://www.boatdesigns.com/products.asp?dept=474

[hallsj]

Here is mine.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xM6bBX4XZcc

[smoothseas200]

Hello Ripped Off -

Those are NOT my ads on Ebay. I haven't been selling on Ebay for quit some time now. It could be someone that bought the plans a long time ago from me, and decided to sell them hiself. I don't know, but they are definitely not my ADS ! I suggest you take it up with that person and quit slamming me for everything. I posted the plans here on boat design for everyone to use and enjoy, free.

Hello wac m trac m -

Happy to hear you recieved the prop. Sorry it would not work for you. I stopped selling on Ebay simply because I got tired of keeping up with it, and the ad fees / Paypal fees kept going up. That's the whole story. Ripped Off is posting someone elses Ebay ad. It isn't mine. Why would I give them away here then turn around to pay ad fees to sell on Ebay ? That doesn't make a damn bit of since. Take care !

Ripped Off -

Why don't you ask this guy where he lives ? I'm in Alabama, I doubt he is. And another thing, if I said something out of line in regards to your outboard I apologize. It was wrong of me to do that. Do try to find out who the guy is selling plans with a picture of your motor. I saw the ad and read it. It is almost a word for word copy of my ad. That pisses me off.

You know, there is too much trash thrown around at each other on this site. If that time was spent developing newer and better designs this would be a better place. You guys take care. This is my last post, I will not be back.

- smoothseas

[ben2go]

Is there a ready made prop that will work for these conversions?Plans for building one?I would like to be able to buy one or make one without having to track some individual down and beg for one.Our lakes and rivers are shallow and I will probably break or knock a prop off.

[wac m trac m]

Ok mines almost done. Took it out on the Colorado river today and went catfishn it did great. Tops out at 8mph even with all the gear in the boat. I still need to fix the tiller. I mounted it to far back so the moter trys to dive and it's hard to keep it up on the surface. Which is another problem. I need to make a new mount. Almost there.








She loads up nice. The moter swivels around like a beavertail type moter.

[kengrome]

Thank you very much OrphanedCowboy for your very kind words, that alone is enough for me. Do you have my plans ? If not, kindly forward your email address and I'll send them right out to you.

Sorry for your loss Roy.

I never got the plans you promised either, maybe you can send them to me too. My email address is bagacayboatworks <at> gmail <dot> com

[John O`Neal]

Smoothseas : Sorry to see you call it quits. The forum can use all the diversity of ideas it can get. It keeps it fresh, productive and interesting. I downloaded your plans and I think your design is unique in every respect. I am at a loss to understand the resentment displayed because you marketed them on Ebay. I don`t see how they possibly infringed upon anyone else`s design. It appears, based on addresses, that someone else has pirated your plans and has created quite a stir. I hope you will reconsider leaving the forum.
Ripped off ; I think I would be flattered if someone used a picture of a motor I built, but I understand your position if you think the seller was intentionally trying to deceive potential customers and pass it off as his own design. I have included a pic of my buddies Island Hopper mounted on a foam boat we built this summer. It looks a lot like your motor . He has had it for a number of yrs. King Crawdad Motors is also making a version of the gear head style conversion utilizing Stihl brushcutters as the donor unit. I guess the point being. It is the rare exception, that our ideas in this field are totally exclusive. Please keep up the good work, your designs and fabrication techniques have helped a lot of us out here.

[wac m trac m]

Cool pic John, that's a good looking unit yall made. Is that a K&N filter on there?

Also is that the original shaft from the weed eater?

[ben2go]

Originally Posted by wac m trac m

Cool pic John, that's a good looking unit yall made. Is that a K&N filter on there?

Also is that the original shaft from the weed eater?

I am curious also.I am trying to find a shaft and prop that will work on my Homelite.I have a 30cc with the curved shaft and centrifugal clutch.Purdy strong little engine.It spun one of those large Gator heads with the nylon blades.

[John O`Neal]

Wac M ; The motor started life as a brushcutter with a 5/16" drive shaft, splined on both ends. The remanufacturer "Island Hopper" shortened the boom then cut a section out of the drive shaft. They welded it back together retaining the drive splines on both ends. Ingeniously simple. The air filter is a K&N style washable element. I choose not to oil it since I would be operating the engine in an over water environment only. Glad your mini-longtail works so well. I`m sure your going to have a great time hunting with it this season. Good job!

Ben2go : I would suggest you try (WWW. Youngs die cast aluminum props.com) I am sure you will be able to find a suitable prop for your project. They have numerous props in the 5 1/2" to 5 3/4" range that should work on a weedeater powered direct drive unit. As far as drive shaft material. Either 5/16' or 3/8" stainless steel rod will work well. Go back to the start of this thread and read the postings . There are some great construction methods discussed some with meticulous instructions and material lists. Ripped-off has a great one that will help you through the building process. Good luck with your build !

[*Ender*]

John-

Nice rig!

In looking at pictures, you still have the exhaust in the original location (now blowing at your head). I have a similar looking 43cc China engine and found it very easy to convert the stock exhaust to the opposite side. As a bonus, from there you can also easily add a secondary muffler to further reduce the noise. If you are interested let me know and I can shoot you some instructions and pics.

Ender

[John O`Neal]

Ender; I am always interested in a better way to build the mousetrap. You are absolutely correct. I should have moved the exhaust outlet to the other side of the muffler. I had every opportunity to accomplish this when I opened up the muffler to improve the flow. The muffler looks stock from the outside but has been relieved. The stock muffler is a two piece unit, flanged together . I heated the flange and folded it back separating the two halves. Inside is a baffle plate separating the two halves with 4 or 5 (5/16") holes in it. I tripled the number of holes in the baffle. I then drilled out the tiny outlet pipe and replaced it with a piece of 1/2" EMT tubing. Hi-performance billet alum mufflers are available with the outlet on the other side but they want a $100 for one. I thought that was a bit steep.That's almost as much as the motor cost. I would be very interested in the muffler info. that you have and would sincerely appreciate it, if you feel like sharing.
John O`Neal