Making a high efficency 3 Kw DC Generator - Page 10

mudman · #**136** 05-04-2009, 04:19 PM

I am afraid that we can not obtain energy from unicorn horns, rainbow dust, or leprachaun farts. There is not a cheaper, nor more economicaly feasable way than petroleum.

Oil and gas is what we use. It provides millions of people with jobs. They support their families on this money, pay bills, and spend the money how they choose. In spending this money, other people obtain money, and this helps the economy. People are working and making money, and people are happy. Waiters, bartenders, bakers, zookeepers, and everybody else obtains money made in the oil and gas industry.

Oil effects steel, boat builders, vessel operators, welders, fabricators, pipe fitters, divers, pilots, engineers, etc. etc. We can go down the line where the fuel prices effect farmers, and in turn effect you. If their is not any oil, what would you like these people to do? I don't know how else to explain it, but energy and oil go hand in hand.

Don't tell me that oil and gas companies are responsible for the destruction of the economy and the ruination of the world. What are there, maybe 5 major oil companies?(and they pay more in taxes than they profit). There are hundreds of others oil companies, mainly mom and pop shops owned and operated by hard working people. I know where you stand, but I happen to support oil busniess, the millions of people that make a living from it, and the billions of people that use it.

So lets get rid of oil all together. Millions of jobs will be destroyed, and we can run this puppy on pixie dust and good feelings. Don't be childish.

So you think that oil destroys the enviornment? Do you have any idea of the regulations required to get oil from a couple miles down, send it to refinery, process it, seperate it, treat it, and then get it to the pump? I guess that you think that those hard working guys just like to dump it into the ocean. Yeah, at $65 a barrel, thats what they like to do. Accidents happen, but they are far and few.

By the way, global warming is a myth. Global warming was generated by people who want to make some money, and nothing more. It is a lie.

Bad oil companies, providing jobs for millions of people, selling energy to the world, and trying to do it in a responsible way. How dare they. We need everyone to get their energy from mermaid tails.

What were we talking about anyway? Oh yeah how to make a small generator. I don't know how to build one that runs on fairy tales.

Jimbo1490 · #**137** 05-04-2009, 08:10 PM

The use of oil is the latest step in our society's natural drive toward efficiency, cleanliness and sustainability, while providing for the basic needs of an increasing population. The previous steps included burning wood and then coal. Oil and natural gas are far cleaner than either of these and their use does not cause deforestation.

What do you think would happen if there were either no more oil, or oil became unaffordable? How do you think people would cook and heat their homes? Well it would most likely be by burning wood, which would lead to disastrous deforestation. If you look at any very poor but populous country, this is exactly what you see; massive environmental degredation. Take a look at Haiti or any of several war-torn African nations where the economy has collapsed. The widespread adoption of oil as our currency of energy has saved us all from a similar outcome.

Jimbo

kistinie · #**138** 05-05-2009, 02:30 AM

Madagascar, Haiti...all these countries are deadly poor only because of corruption and war.

A SS working hard in a camp was doing a job.
L'abbé Pierre taking care of homeless was doing a job
A job can be a nice thing but it can also produce hell
Many oil jobs can be converted to other technologies, and i imagine it will create even more as it will bring a better money repartition through 1000's of small scale company doing alternative items for narrow markets.

Here are some example:
Small size under 20 Kw CPP ? Nothing
Low cost smart pc programmable BLDC controller ? Nothing
BLDC PM motor to replace the flywheel ? Nothing
HHO solar and wind driven kit for boats ? Nothing
H2O injection kits ? Nothing
H20 recycling kits ? Nothing

All these products mean less oil, more jobs.

So if oil business is so perfect tell me what you think of

- Going to war for it?
- Doing "trust prices" on captive markets linked to oil.
And about this last point i know perfectly what i'm saying as my father was doing this for the biggest world oil compagny and went to court in France for this. I also did that myself for electricity markets, for millions of euro and regret to have lost my soul there for too long.

This is no fairy tale.
Energy business world is extremely corrupted, and so is the use of energy we have through the inefficient product we get from the oil friendly industry.
This is a fact, not an opinion.
How do you explain that my 1960 MKI 849cc SU Carb mini with minor modifications on inlet pipes and exhaust can run 4 persons more than 60 mpg ?

When i say corrupted oil, i do not spit on oil but say the way we use it is corrupted, inefficient and only guided by short time profit for a minority
And once again i (am or was ?) part of this minority, having good time around the world with this corrupted money, so do not tell me it ain't so.

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The people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same way in any country. Hermann Wilhelm Göring 18 april 1946

mudman · #**139** 05-05-2009, 08:17 AM

I assume that you are talking about the US going to war for oil.

I have not heard of any oil company going to war. The US government taxes oil companies big time, so therefore the government has a big interest in oil. The more that they can get their hands on the more revenue they can get. Oil is taxed at the port. Oil refineries in the US buy crude from overseas. If you remember, the middle east was screwing us on the price, and at one point, they would not even sell it. This made US oil companies happy, since they thought we would be able to explore for more oil at home.

An offshore oil platform cost anywhere between 5 million and 5 billion in the US. To put the same platform in West Africa, you can multiply that price by 10. I have designed a few. Cost analysis and profitability of course play a huge part. There are thousands of known oil reserves that we have not tapped into yet because the price of oil is not high enough to profit from these fields. Maybe in the future, maybe not.

So oil companies decided to go to war? OK. How many trillions of dollars did they spend? There is enough oil in the US to supply the entire country. The government will not let oil companies explore for more oil. There are too many taxes and too much red tape. I guess that going to war is easier than filling out a few forms and waiting a few weeks for permits.

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Energy business world is extremely corrupted, and so is the use of energy we have through the inefficient product we get from the oil friendly industry

We are doing very cool things with oil in order to get more out of oil fields and get more out of crude. CO2 injection, waterfloods, gas lift, sulfur recovery. Nothing is wasted. Plastics, Tires, makeup, solvents, garbage bags, crayons, candles, toothpaste, and a thousand other products are petroleum based. I think that all of these products, including gas and oil have been pretty efficient so far.

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Small size under 20 Kw CPP ? Nothing
Low cost smart pc programmable BLDC controller ? Nothing
BLDC PM motor to replace the flywheel ? Nothing
HHO solar and wind driven kit for boats ? Nothing
H2O injection kits ? Nothing
H20 recycling kits ? Nothing

I don't see how a controlled pitch prop,can reduce fuel consumption. It is a prop. Low cost smart PC programable BLDC controller sounds anything but low cost. HHO solar and wind driven kits. Are you still talking about removing hydrogen from water? Water injection and recycling I think were explained to you already. So I believe that I can safely say yes, it is nothing.

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How do you explain that my 1960 MKI 849cc SU Carb mini with minor modifications on inlet pipes and exhaust can run 4 persons more than 60 mpg ?

It's 849cc. I have a lawnmower with more displacement. What are you pushing there, a whopping 35 hp? My wife has a 140 hp honda that gets close to 40 mpg highway. That's stock, no mods, came from the factory like that. I've had it up to 130 mph already too.

This theory that oil companies are going to war for oil, modifying cars and engines to be less efficient, and killing people that invented things like the car that runs on water or the engine that runs on air, are all conspiracy theories.

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Madagascar, Haiti...all these countries are deadly poor only because of corruption and war

No they are at war with themselves because they are poor. I'm running out of patience trying to explain economics. There is a class war. There is very little money, the people have no skills. War did not cause it. War is the direct result of it.

If you get rid of oil, you will destroy millions of peoples lives. Once these people are homeless, who will help them? Once again you are caught in a catch 22.

As far a loosing my soul, I have met hundreds af good hard working people. I've met big time and small time, and all of the time, these corrupt people give to charities and organizations, and so do I. I am constantly at fund raisers for cancer, down syndrome, autism, disabilites. The list goes on and on. Lost my soul? I help any way that that I can, and so do most of the people in the industry.

I guess that the millions of jobs created by oil and gas can be replaced by people building CCP's and flux capacitors. Get real man.

Just go build that generator that runs on dreams and let me know how that works out for you.

kistinie · #**140** 05-05-2009, 09:26 AM

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