Wich one is better

[laumeciho]

Our company want to buy this software package for our new yard.
1. Maxsurf, Solidworks and Shipconstructor
or
2. AutoShip, Rhino and Tribon
If Price is not a problem for us, Wich one is better, Package 1 or 2?

Regrads,
Lau

[EmilSB]

In my opinion the second choice is the best.


2. AutoShip, Rhino and Tribon

In this moment I use Rhino and Tribon and the results are very good.

[SailDesign]

I use Autoship and Rhino, and have been very happy with this pair for about 10 years. Mind you, I work for and with myself, and am not a large yard building large vessels.
Best place to start is by asking other yards of a similar size what they use and like.
Steve

[Andrew Mason]

I believe Maxsurf and our Workshop program for preliminary structural design together with ShipConstructor will give you the best and most flexible system.

I would question whether you need Solidworks, however, unless you are building composite vessels.

[laumeciho]

Dear Mr. Andrew

Do you have any reassons why Maxsurf and Ship constructor are better than Autoship and Tribon ?.
Our yard build FRP and Aluminum HSC Passengers Ferry.

Regrads,
Lau

[Raggi_Thor]

Originally Posted by laumeciho

Our company want to buy this software package for our new yard.
1. Maxsurf, Solidworks and Shipconstructor
or
2. AutoShip, Rhino and Tribon
If Price is not a problem for us, Wich one is better, Package 1 or 2?

Regrads,
Lau

ShipConstructor needs AutoCAD (or Acad LT with Extender), so I don't think you need SolidWorks.

After many years with AutoCAD, I find Rhino very pleasing to use.

[Thai]

our company is used Autoship System(autoship Pro, Autohydro, Autoplate and Autopower). We have been designing many vessel on this software and it is easy to use I advise you should do it.

[marshmat]

Rhino is probably one of the most intuitive, easy to use and powerful CAD programs I've used. AutoShip seems to have a good following (I haven't been able to get my hands on it yet though). I would question if Solidworks is very useful for hull design; it seems more suited to mechanical engineering work such as engines and gearboxes.

[Raggi_Thor]

SolidWorks may be useful for all internal stucture; frames, bulkeheads, floors etc, where there is no compound curvature. There is an addon called "SurfaceWorks" is made by AreoHydro, http://www.aerohydro.com/ that makes SolidWorks into a very powerful yacht design program. Has anyone tried it?

[Andrew Mason]

Originally Posted by laumeciho

Dear Mr. Andrew

Do you have any reassons why Maxsurf and Ship constructor are better than Autoship and Tribon ?.
Our yard build FRP and Aluminum HSC Passengers Ferry.

Regrads,
Lau

Maxsurf is the system of choice for most of the worlds top fast ferry designers, with companies such as Austal, Incat Designs, Image, and Damen Singapore using the system.

ShipConstructor is easily the best ship construction system for this scale of vessel. It has recently been chosen by Austal after a full evaluation of both ShipConstructor and Tribon. Although Tribon is tailored to large commercial ships, it is not well suited to unconventional hull forms or construction methods, such as extruded planking.

[laumeciho]

Originally Posted by Andrew Mason

Maxsurf is the system of choice for most of the worlds top fast ferry designers, with companies such as Austal, Incat Designs, Image, and Damen Singapore using the system.

ShipConstructor is easily the best ship construction system for this scale of vessel. It has recently been chosen by Austal after a full evaluation of both ShipConstructor and Tribon. Although Tribon is tailored to large commercial ships, it is not well suited to unconventional hull forms or construction methods, such as extruded planking.

Thanks Mr Andrew. i will contact Damen Singapore for more information about maxsurf.

[laumeciho]

Originally Posted by SailDesign

I use Autoship and Rhino, and have been very happy with this pair for about 10 years. Mind you, I work for and with myself, and am not a large yard building large vessels.
Best place to start is by asking other yards of a similar size what they use and like.
Steve

Dear Sail Boat.

I saw your site and I think your Myrddin - A 32 is very beautiful boat !
Do You make it with Autoship and Rhino ?

[laumeciho]

Originally Posted by Raggi_Thor

ShipConstructor needs AutoCAD (or Acad LT with Extender), so I don't think you need SolidWorks.

After many years with AutoCAD, I find Rhino very pleasing to use.

I has visited your site but i think it is in norwegian languange.
Can you give me an advise, Autoship with Tribon or Maxsurf with Ship Constructor is better?
How about Hydrosoft Navcad and PropCad, do you think it will be useful for us?

Lau

[SailDesign]

Originally Posted by laumeciho

I saw your site and I think your Myrddin - A 32 is very beautiful boat !
Do You make it with Autoship and Rhino ?

Yes, and thanks for the compliments - they are always gratefully received
Steve

[Raggi_Thor]

Originally Posted by laumeciho

I has visited your site but i think it is in norwegian languange.
Can you give me an advise, Autoship with Tribon or Maxsurf with Ship Constructor is better?
How about Hydrosoft Navcad and PropCad, do you think it will be useful for us?

Lau

Sorry, I don't know the other programs you mention. I tried Autoship at school, 15 years ago... You should also know that I worked for an Autodesk dealer a few years, that's maybe why I like ShipConstructor, because it runs inside AutoCAD (a program I knwo very well).
Whatever you choose, most designers seem to work in two different environments, one for initial design where you shape the hull, look at the hydrostatics etc (FastShip for example) and then later, when the design is "fixed" (no more changes to the hull), they move to a more detailed cad package (AutoCAD+ShipConstructor for example) to solve all the "bits and pieces" (how does this bulkhead meet that frame and knee) and to make 2D cutting files for cnc production. For very small boats I am happy with Rhino for the 3D modelling (except hull shape that I get as an iges file from others) + IntelliCAD ("AutoCAD clone") for the finishing detailing.