Step by step to design your boat!

Originally Posted by bdVlajko

And why do you think it is "so extremely far from being true" ?

No boy, in my village we ask first, then contradict. Not vice versa.
Go study.........

Originally Posted by frank smith

the draft on the Oregon dory is wrong I think , but maybe it has a 1000 lb of fish in it

What was that? A bit hijacking before we have tea??

[bdVlajko]

... and in my village we provide arguments for such claims. Of course, it is always easier to hide behind age, education, number of posts, fancy signature or whatever.

Originally Posted by bdVlajko

... and in my village we provide arguments for such claims. Of course, it is always easier to hide behind age, education, number of posts, fancy signature or whatever.

Ok Srbsk,

lets make it another pissing contest.

I must not hide behind anything, I just refuse to waste my time with idiots trying to tell the pro´s how the water freezes.
If you would have asked about a opinion or a valuation of your figures, be sure you would have got a nice and serious answer. (not here btw. this was a tutorial for Freeship beginners, before your mad post popped up).
But dumb statements, telling others what you can do, do´nt lead to fruitful discussions.

Originally Posted by frank smith

Another ,I can do it you cant thread . I am not sure these help anyone or clarify things to much ..

you´re on the best way to make it become such place.....
may I know your intention?

[Martijn_vE]

Originally Posted by frank smith

Freeships is a tool , and just like any other tool it wont do everything

Frank is right. Just like any other design software, it's just that: software. Kinda like the carpenters hammer.

The risk of software like this is that it seems so easy to design a boat.
Sure, modeling something resembling a 40ft sailing yacht on your screen is easy enough. But modeling something in 3D is not yet designing.
And as long as your goal is to create an 8ft rowing boat for the kids there's not much risk (as long as you remembered to teach them how to swim).
But designing something larger (and safer!) is way more complex, not something you'll learn from reading a thread.
If you are really eager to learn how to design a boat then either buy yourself a stack of books (and read them ) or take a course in designing and building.

Better still, why do not both.

[bdVlajko]

Originally Posted by apex1

Ok Srbsk,

lets make it another pissing contest.

I must not hide behind anything, I just refuse to waste my time with idiots trying to tell the pro´s how the water freezes.
If you would have asked about a opinion or a valuation of your figures, be sure you would have got a nice and serious answer. (not here btw. this was a tutorial for Freeship beginners, before your mad post popped up).
But dumb statements, telling others what you can do, do´nt lead to fruitful discussions.

Just to make it clear ...

1. I did not start a pissing content - you did.
2. I never said you are an idiot - you did.
3. I did not ask for an opinion. I asked what gives you the right to say it's far from truth and if you can't provide any argument that's fine with me.
4. I do not tell others what to do but you did that on many occasions in this thread.

And what kind of tutorial for Freeship beginners is this anyway, when you keep telling beginners that they are idiots who can't design their own boat ?

Vladimir

Originally Posted by Martijn_vE

Frank is right. Just like any other design software, it's just that: software. Kinda like the carpenters hammer.

The risk of software like this is that it seems so easy to design a boat.
Sure, modeling something resembling a 40ft sailing yacht on your screen is easy enough. But modeling something in 3D is not yet designing.
And as long as your goal is to create an 8ft rowing boat for the kids there's not much risk (as long as you remembered to teach them how to swim).
But designing something larger (and safer!) is way more complex, not something you'll learn from reading a thread.
If you are really eager to learn how to design a boat then either buy yourself a stack of books (and read them ) or take a course in designing and building.

Better still, why do not both.

Hello Martijn, and welcome here.

It would have been nice to see you here before the drivel started.

And sorry, NO Frank is not right! He is just repeating what we, the starter and contributors to the thread have said right from the beginning!

Btw. is your site working again?

Regards
Richard

[Fanie]

Dear fellow forum users

None of these last posts are usefull in any way. Argumenting does not provide anything other than time awaisting.

Since this is Richard's thread, I think you, Richard, should make your expectancy for this thread clear (in less than 50 words, the weekend is almost over ) and the rest of us stick to it.

If any you have other ideas then feel free to start your own thread...

Kids...

[Martijn_vE]

Originally Posted by apex1

And sorry, NO Frank is not right! He is just repeating what we, the starter and contributors to the thread have said right from the beginning

Actually it doesn't really matter who came up with the argument originally, you, Frank or someone else.
The argument stays valid.

But I must add to my previous post that I didn't mean that an amateur cannot learn how to design a boat.
It just takes practice, knowledge and common sense.
The first two will come with time. And common sense, well let's just say that I'm still waiting for that.

Originally Posted by apex1

It would have been nice to see you here before the drivel started.

And as far as the driveling is concerned, it seems to happen more and more on this forum lately.
Somewhere along the thread someone starts quibbling over details (or worse, the "definition of design") and the thread becomes spoiled.

So my personal opinion is we should give it a rest and move on.

[Fanie]

He he Frank,

I am also married to a miserable women who does a wonderful job of making me feel...

Her name is not Richard by any chance My old witch does exactly the same. I think it's their way of letting them feel important for us.

So could we please stop this drivel now!

As Fanie pointed out so appropriate, this is MY thread.

Contribute to topic or stay away, nobody has a obligation to enjoy this place.

Originally Posted by frank smith

Frankly , this is Richards long and winding way to tell all us hobbyist , want to be boat designers that we are small minded twits . And I am now offended, as
all of us should be . .

Frank your dumb attempt to hijack this place was noticed. As well as this hypocritical assumption about my intention. Feel offended, who cares. Do´nt forget to delete your nonsense before you leave!

Quite impressive to see how fast things change.

Just two, three pages back there was solely positive echo around (which I did not request). And that came from well respected and professional members only.
Then a completely unknown "value" pops up here, and the thread becomes hijacked by gruntling newbies. One of them unwilling to read the thread, the other just searching for a Friday evening fight. Not a single one constructive critic, just drivel.
What sad individuals.

Originally Posted by frank smith

I am also married to a miserable women who does a wonderful job of making me feel inadequate , so I dont need to come her for that.

Well, you may call her miserable (what a behaviour), but I´m sure she knows you well!

You have forgotten to delete your nonsense posts (thats ALL).

[lewisboats]

Apex1...seeing as you won't tell me which response you are talking about in the PMs would you please quote it here so I know what you are talking about. You are lashing out at me and I don't know what for. I have made 2 replies to posts since explaining my "merde" statement...both from Frank Smith and both pertaining to a design I posted at the beginning of THIS THREAD. If you can't remember what was posted at the beginning of your own thread then you need to go back and re-read it...and get off your high horse (and MY back)!

[bdVlajko]

Originally Posted by apex1

Quite impressive to see how fast things change.
Just two, three pages back there was solely positive echo around (which I did not request). And that came from well respected and professional members only.

This "positive echo around" disappeared after you said:

Originally Posted by apex1

Thank you all for your comments, contribution, complications, contradiction!
Now after almost 4500 hits, I think it´s time to tell you the naked truth.

you cannot design your own boat! That was a barefaced lie!

Then it became obvious that you are not trying to write tutorial but rather play joke on people looking for one. All you did after that post is to tell people they are incapable of designing their own boat.

This is no "Step by step to design your own boat!" - this is a barefaced lie!