Free software for rendering

[CGN]

http://www.download.com/3120-20_4-0....trid=658315134

[Raggi_Thor]

Is it Bryce 5.5 or 6?
Is it better or easier to use than low cost renderers like Flamingo, V-ray and Maxwell?

[CGN]

5.5, IMO is a little bit better than flamingo, is well know for rendering of outdoors scene wich for us boaters water always tend to be the memory "hog process" in any given rendering,

compared to V-Ray and Maxwell probable not even close in regard of final "quality", but bryce has been before maxwell not sure about v-ray (which i'll dare to say that maybe bryce was first) i think for now bryce is more complete than maxwell and maybe v-ray (texturing, animation, control of settings etc..), these days a lot of free rendering engines are quite advanced even if they are free they are very capable to produce quality renderings so i have to say that 90% is the user and 10% the software from there do the math.

And is easy to use.

I'm going to add an advice about testing software, there is an application called "Altiris® Software Virtualization Solution" "SVS"

http://www.svsdownloads.com/

this application install software on "layers" so that means that any software that you may install with SVS does not touch yoru registry so instead of desinstall a software just delete the layer and your pc is not afected with a lot of the leftovers on your registry.

so install this application and run all test and betas you want

cheers

[Raggi_Thor]

THANKS :-)
That was a very useful tip, I test a lot of sw, lots of different versions etc, and after some month my pc is like syrup.

[Troutcatcher]

Sandboxie is a free product similar to SVS which allows users to keep their demos and evaluations contained in a "sandbox" which can be deleted later thus avoiding any permanent "left over" impact on the registry.

www.sandboxie.com

[ratrace2]

Originally Posted by CGN

5.5, IMO is a little bit better than flamingo, is well know for rendering of outdoors scene wich for us boaters water always tend to be the memory "hog process" in any given rendering,

compared to V-Ray and Maxwell probable not even close in regard of final "quality", but bryce has been before maxwell not sure about v-ray (which i'll dare to say that maybe bryce was first) i think for now bryce is more complete than maxwell and maybe v-ray (texturing, animation, control of settings etc..), these days a lot of free rendering engines are quite advanced even if they are free they are very capable to produce quality renderings so i have to say that 90% is the user and 10% the software from there do the math.

And is easy to use.

I'm going to add an advice about testing software, there is an application called "Altiris® Software Virtualization Solution" "SVS"

http://www.svsdownloads.com/

this application install software on "layers" so that means that any software that you may install with SVS does not touch yoru registry so instead of desinstall a software just delete the layer and your pc is not afected with a lot of the leftovers on your registry.

so install this application and run all test and betas you want

cheers

Let me understand this:
You download a "trial verison" of Bryce 5.5 and this is better quality than Flamingo or v-ray. Can you use any file you want from another application. For example, will Bryce do Alibre, Rhino AutoCad. Can we render those files with Bryce

[CGN]

No, what i'm saying is that Bryce is more complete solution for the cost (better texturing and more control on the scene settings) and the quality is not bad, i mentioned that Maxwell and V-Ray may give you better quality, but IMO %90 is the user %10 is the Software you can get decent rendering scenes with Bryce and you can't beat the price this for those new to rendering or 3D modelers that would like to practice rendering before committing to any given rendering software

You can use Bryce to render models from those applications

From Alibre: Use *OBJ, *STL or *DXF
From Autocad: Use *3ds or *DXF
From Rhino: *OBJ

Bryce is more of an scenery render, so water is a pre-set feature that won't take time to set up and render, I personally never found flamingo to be worthy, 1-Price, 2-Features, for same cost CarraraPro is a full application with lots of features and capable of import Iges, Step, Acis or Rhino Files for the cost of Flamingo or less.

If you are looking to learn how to render and don't want to spend some money yet try Bryce using SVS, or if you are looking for a render software that can give you good results and works with Alibre Rhino and Autocad, have a look at Carrara Pro and XSI, xsi has V-ray integrated.

I do not recommend V-Ray or Maxwell becouse i don't belive there is such thing as "point and shoot" a big maybe close to that is Hypershot, and guessing that most of us we are not looking to live from renderings, this apps will do but if that is not the case then look for high end software like alias or 3DMax type


Bryce 5.5 is free no string attached

cheers

[Raggi_Thor]

Thanks CGN and SelungaFangur, lots of good advice here.

[Troutcatcher]

Hi Raggi,

SelungaFangur is not such a bad attempt to translate my nickname into my native language

The correct version could be Silungafangari.

What would that be in Norwegian???

[Raggi_Thor]

Thanks.
I have always wondered if silunga has somehing to do with seals.
Trout = Ørret in Norwegian, so TroutCatcher would be ØrretFanger.

[Troutcatcher]

Selvfölgelig er det ÖrretFanger på Norsk. Of course it is. Silungur is a synonym for various different species of trout, including örret (urridi) and bleikja (blege på Norsk ?).

Anyway, we are a bit off topic I guess

All the best,

Örretfangeren

[ratrace2]

Originally Posted by CGN

No, what i'm saying is that Bryce is more complete solution for the cost (better texturing and more control on the scene settings) and the quality is not bad, i mentioned that Maxwell and V-Ray may give you better quality, but IMO %90 is the user %10 is the Software you can get decent rendering scenes with Bryce and you can't beat the price this for those new to rendering or 3D modelers that would like to practice rendering before committing to any given rendering software

You can use Bryce to render models from those applications

From Alibre: Use *OBJ, *STL or *DXF
From Autocad: Use *3ds or *DXF
From Rhino: *OBJ

Bryce is more of an scenery render, so water is a pre-set feature that won't take time to set up and render, I personally never found flamingo to be worthy, 1-Price, 2-Features, for same cost CarraraPro is a full application with lots of features and capable of import Iges, Step, Acis or Rhino Files for the cost of Flamingo or less.

If you are looking to learn how to render and don't want to spend some money yet try Bryce using SVS, or if you are looking for a render software that can give you good results and works with Alibre Rhino and Autocad, have a look at Carrara Pro and XSI, xsi has V-ray integrated.

I do not recommend V-Ray or Maxwell becouse i don't belive there is such thing as "point and shoot" a big maybe close to that is Hypershot, and guessing that most of us we are not looking to live from renderings, this apps will do but if that is not the case then look for high end software like alias or 3DMax type


Bryce 5.5 is free no string attached

cheers

Hey, I was wondering back and forth between Alibre, Rhino and 3DsMax.
Of these 3 options which do you think has the most realistic rendering capabilities. The reason I ask is, I see in the "Pro" gallery that some of the models are really, truelly great. I find it hard to tell the difference from CAD and "real". I have seen Flamingo and it didn't look that great, I saw Alibre in the sales add but was not sure how it would work with a boat, and I saw what I think was 3dsMax and it was really good. In other words, some CAD renderings look good and some look really great. I would like to get really great. For example, look at Ars-Technica those have to be done in 3DsMax.

[ratrace2]

These look really good............
These are from the "Pro" gallery, I would like to get this quality...
The first picture from the Left was done by Jalen (member) The middle picture was done by Chris Longmore (drivein.co.uk) as well as the far right picture..I sent the guy a "PM" about software but he hasn't gotten back to me yet.

[Raggi_Thor]

Originally Posted by ratrace2

Hey, I was wondering back and forth between Alibre, Rhino and 3DsMax.
Of these 3 options which do you think has the most realistic rendering capabilities. The reason I ask is, I see in the "Pro" gallery that some of the models are really, truelly great. I find it hard to tell the difference from CAD and "real". I have seen Flamingo and it didn't look that great, I saw Alibre in the sales add but was not sure how it would work with a boat, and I saw what I think was 3dsMax and it was really good. In other words, some CAD renderings look good and some look really great. I would like to get really great. For example, look at Ars-Technica those have to be done in 3DsMax.

I am selling Rhino and Alibre in Norway.
These two work together. You can model a hull and Rhino and import it as a feature in Alibre, or you can model some structure in Alibre and model a skin in Rhino.

Non of these two has a realistic renderer.
Both are OK for non realistic rendering.

I suggest you use different software for different tasks, Alibre (or Alibre Express?) for hardware (mechanical design) and Rhino for free form modelleing (hull design). Rhino can do almost anything, but simple shapes and 2D drawings may be faster with a parametric solid modellerer.

I find the free renderers very interesting, but I think ease of use more important than a cost of zero vs a few hundred dollars/euros.

[ratrace2]

Right, I was thinking the same thing, Rhino for the hulls, and Alibre for the Mechanical stuff. But, I'm still at a loss for a good rendering package. I downloaded Bryce 5.5 but it was a ".sit" or something. and I have down loaded 3DsMax but I haven't found a way to turn the rendering into a .jpg, and I can't spend $3,500.00 on it today. So, what would you suggest. I did a model for a guy and I need to get it rendered today......Yesteday