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Old 09-16-2010, 02:46 PM
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Wyliecat Rig vs. Modern Sloop Rig Performance

Saw the following posted sometime ago with no reply.

How do you think these two boats would perform against each other?


On the subject of Wylie, would someone like to crank up their VPP and run a fictitious race between a Wyliecat 44 and a Coutts 44? Who wins? Why?
http://www.wyliecat.com/yachts/models/wyliecat_44.html
http://www.rc44.com/
http://www.v1-tech.com/wp-content/files/File/RC44.pdf
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Old 09-16-2010, 05:45 PM
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"I also wanted a boat that could be sailed short-handed with a deck layout incorporating many non-standard adjustments." Quote from RC

So should the comparative VPP be run with 1 or 2 crew? Triangle,Windward-Leeward o.k.?
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Old 09-16-2010, 06:10 PM
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On the subject of Wylie, would someone like to crank up their VPP and run a fictitious race between a Wyliecat 44 and a Coutts 44?
You're not going to get any meaningful VPP results without extensive data from the hull and appendages, and an accurate load condition with weight and center of gravity. Chances are the Wylie cat rig falls outside the empirical data used to develop the VPP algorithm, so the results for that boat may not be reliable anyway.
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Thanks for your interest and replies. I'm interested in a comparison on windward-leeward course scenario with a small crew of 4 on the Wyliecat and full crew on the RC 44. What do you think could allow us to do the best comparison of performance between these 2 boats?
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Thanks for your interest and replies. I'm interested in a comparison on windward-leeward course scenario with a small crew of 4 on the Wyliecat and full crew on the RC 44. What do you think could allow us to do the best comparison of performance between these 2 boats?
The RC 44 probably has the edge under that scenario being the (reportedly) lighter boat with more crew generated righting moment. That said, Tom Wylie is one of the best and most innovative designers in the business. The Wyliecat 44 looks like a helluva nice boat that may or may not beat an RC 44, but should be close in speed potential, as you may have already surmised.

If you're lucky, these boats will enter an event where they sail the same course at the same time and you can look at the elapsed times. Or you may be able to get ORC VPP polar plots from the manufacturers and compare those.
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Old 09-16-2010, 10:58 PM
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Here is a great picture of a Wyliecat 44 racing several years ago; I think this boat has been converted to a sloop rig and is up for sale.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/lawatt/...n/set-1256301/

http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/2006.../United-States
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