William Garden Designs

[dick stave]

I appreciate your help. Out of respect for the designer, is it ethical to publish his design?

his designs are in all THE books, i dont think the family would mind, after all nobody is seeking to benefit from them , It is a done thing to study these old classics Besides in those days they were gentelmen, not like (some) of the brats of today, get your self sued easy as pie, nah go ahead, crumbs I have the bible SKENES Elemants of Yacht Design open in front of me, full of lines from days past

[longliner45]

Dick I admire your respect for the designer,,,just wanted to see how a 24ft boat looks with 10ft keel,longliner

[dick stave]

I will dust off the scanner. As far I can see, the only one ever built was in Anchorage (sans trunk cabin )and it is sleek.We should give this one a look.
All this talk of seabright skiffs...

[dick stave]

Here are some attached pics, stations are at 24".

[dick stave]

Here they are.

[kengrome]

I successfully designed a nasty chine trip into my little dory jet boat so Im a little gun shy of flat-ties (not that Im making any comparison to the esteemed Mr. Garden) I just dont like the pounding.

When the bow rises enough to expose the flat bottom panel to the tops of the waves, that's when you get pounding. If a pointed bow stays in the water the boat won't pound.

William Atkin recognized this when he designed several of his tunnel-stern Seabright skiffs. He commonly used a flat-bottom double-ended box keel with no rocker to keep the bow in the water. Coincidentally one of these boats is also named 'Heron':

http://www.boat-links.com/Atkinco/Utilities/Heron.html

[dick stave]

I should have entitled this thread " Confessions of a Boat Pervert". I have gone down flumes in the Chilliwack river when, much to my surprise, and I reached the bottom,it took a perpendicular right. Nothing turns quicker,
(you just have to be ready for it when it kicks). A vee bottom with a wheel would perish on the rocks and logs. I am well aware of characteristics of the flat bottom hull form. Maybe 6.29 knots would be a good speed for a fellow like me... and when the shadows grow long,the big sleds all scurrying for the launch, I will have my supper, my quota of beer, and settle in for the night.