What would you want in a 19 ft cc

Discussion in 'Boat Design' started by Albert Jr., Mar 27, 2013.

  1. Albert Jr.

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    Hi guys, my second thread here.
    So Some of you have read my first thread so here comes my second.

    As my dream boat I've always wanted a 19 footer preferably a classic 19 Mako.

    Knowing that rarely someone builds a 19 cc open transom, I've decided to design my own.

    My goal is to bring back a boat model that's been forgotten in the offshore fishing world.

    With this I'm asking every user here,
    What would you want if a 19 ft cc was build to your specs.
    I'm seriously wanting to know everyone's opinion from fisherman to family cruising to military to research.
     
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  3. Mr Efficiency
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    A 19 foot centre console with an "open" transom ? As in no motor well, but a self-draining cockpit ?
     
  4. Albert Jr.

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    It has an outboard engine offcourse but I'm thinking the open transom will be 4 ft wide while the boat itself (from port to starboard) will be 8 ft wide.
    Close to 8'9'' up front.
    A little Carolina flarish.

    No motor well, a self draining cockpit but it will have a wall of fiberglass just in front of the engine so the boat won't get flooded as fast.
     
  5. Albert Jr.

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    Thanks a lot, I'll take alook asap.
     
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    Well, a 19 foot boat is a little small for a self-drainer, but can be done safely with good beam, carried well forward. You want a broad-shouldered boat, not something with a pointy bow low down. Like the kite boat !
     
  7. Albert Jr.

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    I was thinking something like the Seacraft (I also want to use the Seacraft hull design - chines and strakes) but I want to design a hull with a flare that leans a little more towards the Carolina flare so a little in between those two hull styles.
     
  8. Albert Jr.

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    I mentioned that I've ridden a classic Mako 19 for most of my childhood and we still use it to this day, but what I didn't mention is that we fish offshore a lot and the waves at Curacao are a lot different that those at Florida for example.
    the waves 20 miles off Florida are just as high as going no more than a meter or two offshore at Curacao.
    Even inshore the waves are 1 to 2 feet.
     
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    If the Mako you talk about is the same one I've seen here years ago, it was regarded by the hard-nosed offshore boaters as not up to the job. It may have had a moderate 14 or 15 degree deadrise at the transom, and not much good for the nerves in a following sea. By the same token, a deep-vee more than 19 degrees would be a little tender, especially with the high floor.
     
  10. Albert Jr.

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    I don't know which Mako that is.
    What I do know is that the Mako I'm referring to is from 1970 and it has a similar VDH design as the Seacraft.
    The Seacraft may be a better ride (it is between 15 to 19 degrees) but it isn't the only boat from that era that has used this type of 'stepped' method.
     
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    I do believe the variable deadrise hull with the convex sections aft is the best compromise for a fishing boat of this kind, it is a much steadier vessel underfoot than a deep vee carried all the way aft.
     
  12. Albert Jr.

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    I will admit that I have rarely ever been on boats newer than 1990.
    Only boats I've been on that are newer are a 32 outrage, 21 outrage and a 21 dauntless.(Mako beated both 21 footers IMH)

    IMO the Mako has ridden fine till this day but that's for me.
    I know boats have gotten better and have achieved a way softer ride but compared to my 25 outrage from 1988, the Mako just rides better.
     
  13. Albert Jr.

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    Well this may annoy you but what is a convex section.
    I have a feeling that you're referring to the 'steps' that I was talking about.
     
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    Not stepped, just a bottom where the deadrise at the chine decreases steadily towards the centreline, at the transom.
     

  15. Albert Jr.

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    Oh ok ok.
    Learned something new right there :)
    But that is what I was thinking to use the design specs that have been used for the Seacraft hulls.
    Use the same angle of degrees.
     
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