What floats your boat.

Discussion in 'Boat Design' started by tom kane, May 6, 2015.

  1. Mr Efficiency
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    The whole thread needs to be put on ice in the deep-freeze. If only to save Tom the embarrassment ! I know some said Einstein was wrong, but......if we can't take dear old Archimedes' principle as "settled", there would be little we could.
     
  2. cmckesson
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    I actually assign them to do Dave Cockey's calculation. But by giving them a box barge the computation - over the entire underwater surface of the hull - is simple.

    Now, try repeating the calculation for a box that is sitting on the bottom, such that there is no water between the bottom of the box and the seabed.
     
  3. tom kane
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    Regarding post #5

    The one with the most area in contact with the water will have the lest draft.

    Using website information.
    Buoyancy force Archimedes principle of buoyancy.
    _This means the more area you give a material the higher it can ride in the water.


    _When an object floats it displaces, a volume of water whose mass is equal to the objects mass. If it can`t displace this much water the object sinks.

    Lesson Closure.
    _But the shape of the object can determine how much water will be displaced by the object.

    My comment.
    A flat bottom boat is not necessarily a shallow draft boat.
     
  4. cmckesson
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    Regarding Post #33.

    No. You are wrong. Stop.
     
  5. SamSam
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    I'm inclined to say a flat bottom boat gives the shallowest draft possible, everything else is deeper.
     
  6. tom kane
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    This is a discussion on what floats your boat if I am wrong prove it with sensible discussion not acting like naughty school children.
     
  7. yofish

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    C'mon the last sentence can be true!
     
  8. tom kane
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    I presume the information on the web is wrong according to your theories.
    Prove it.
     
  9. yofish

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    Shape is not volume! If you crush your boat flat it will have the same perimeter but not the same volume, if that's what you mean......and so what?
     
  10. myark
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    A Myark folding trailer barge with a 13 ton digger on top floating in 12" of water.

    With no load on top it floats in 2" of water and plans with 50hp outboard at 20 knots.
     

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    All the information is true if you accept the teaching of the teachengineering site is correct.
    Come on boys loosen up. I have never met a competent " Engineer " yet.
     
  12. tom kane
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    Here is the way to show that area is important.
     
  13. FMS
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    Draw any other non-flat hull shape that will have less draft than the barge pictured given equal weight, beam, and length.
     
  14. tom kane
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    You are getting desperate.Do you not accept the information on teachengineering as being correct.
    What fun we have with our children at school.Who would want to be a reacher.
     

  15. yofish

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    myark, everyone here knows what floats yer boat.....
     
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