wave tub under 30k?

Discussion in 'Boat Design' started by billyc, Feb 26, 2009.

  1. billyc
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    billyc ASCboards Shaper,Glasser

    after seeing wakesurf boat prices triple into the 95k range. ive decided that a 24' to 28' long/110" beam/40" rear deadrise wave tub that retails for 30k would be a hit. The tub would be practical,motor,ballast,bench seating,stereo..imo every high school kid in the country would be into it.parents too at 30k retail..
    Wakesurfing is taking over,a practical,cost effective,wave maker,would be a hot item untill the mainstream big guyz did the same.
    i see a three year window before my idea gets robbed.
    Anyone have any ideas as to what the best hull design would be to make the best transom wave at 16mph?
     
  2. Gilbert
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    Gilbert Senior Member

    Yeah, a 32 foot, 15 foot beam Bristol Bay gillnet boat with 2 450HP Detroit 6V-92's and a load of fuel.
     
  3. billyc
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    billyc ASCboards Shaper,Glasser

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    :D yeah that would be sick, but exhaust fumes,fuel efficiency,ease of turn around,overall cost are the main issues here.
    hull,motor,ballast system,stereo. No cloth interior,all wash out style like a fishing boat or sail boat
    trying to keep the cost down to under $15k so it can retail for $30kus
    saw there was some triple digit IQ's here,thought i could get some hull ideas.
    heres a link to a video page on a website so you can see how we are currently doing it.wakesurfing!
    http://www.ascboards.com/howto.html
     
  4. chandler
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    chandler Senior Member

    Wake is a bad thing in boat design. I wouldn't worry too much about someone stealing your idea, cruise ships have wave making pools, go on a cruise for a year for 30,000
     
  5. billyc
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    billyc ASCboards Shaper,Glasser

    senior member with negative,mental midget reply.Oh well,its all good.sorry but you werent the triple digit IQ i was referring to.
    Wake is a bad thing in boat design?!!?
    Are you completely lost?
    ever heard of wakeboarding?
    get with the times old man and quit haten,start appreciatin.
    anywayz,back to the regularly scheduled program.im here to discuss options in hull design for the biggest transom wake at 16mph
    16mph because thats the average speed of a head high west coast wave.
    we are already wakesurfing at 16mph but the wave is only 4' tall and it costs $95,000.
    hence the $30k wave tub.
    if it made a wake 5' to 6' tall at 16 to 20mph, it would sell out!
     
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  6. apex1

    apex1 Guest

    You are disgusting BOY, and the only negative, mental midget reply I´ve seen was yours!

    With that sort of behaviour you´ll hardly find any advice here.


    BTW 101 is a three digit IQ as well (if you find someone to translate that from binary to decimal you know what i assume to be yours).
     
  7. billyc
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    billyc ASCboards Shaper,Glasser

    apex 1, your just another negative, mental midgit, follower.
    ive read your post, All your ideas are dated to say the least.yes i said DATED.
    its also obvious you dont ride,prolly never have.just keyboard warrior.
    like i said, its all good sallies..im sure someone here knows what im talking about.
    its clear you dont have anything relevent to the thread so mabe go play in the street and not hyjack my thread with your sissy like replies.
    save your breath psycho,no need to reply,i really could care less what you think.
    im here to discuss my boat design ideas with people with positive energy.not negative one liners trying to devalue my ideas.peace
     
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  8. apex1

    apex1 Guest

    Good luck !!! And thank you for your expertise about my knowledge. You´re obviously a really acknowledged specialist.
    PS. if you like to insult someone, learn how to spell the offence....:D
     
  9. billyc
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    billyc ASCboards Shaper,Glasser

    mr negative

     
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    apex1 Guest

     
  11. rasorinc
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    rasorinc Senior Member

    billyc, we try to be friends here and honey is always better than vinigar. With 2 properly designed steel or aluminum plows mounted on the transom will create a wake as high as you want it W/O designing a special hull or boat just to create a wave. You just need an engine with high thrust to pull them through the water. If you feel you've takin a hit, just smile and re-phrase your question. Lots of folks here use english as a second language. I speak several and sometimes errors are made.
     
  12. billyc
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    billyc ASCboards Shaper,Glasser

    agreed.
    im actually sposored by switchblade
    http://www.switchbladewake.com/
    it works great and i am stoked on how i can change the shape of the wave.
    was this what you meant when you say mounted on the transom?
    im also familiar with this sweet concept but havent riden it yet
    http://www.google.com/patents?id=Q3YjAAAAEBAJ&printsec=abstract&zoom=4
    these are both great ideas but have to be mounted to a boat that costs a minimum of $60kus.
    ive heard rumor of port and starboard transom mounted, bennett trimtabs but havent seen anything yet.
    its my belief after riding for mastercraft,supra,centurion and now wakecraft.
    i should be able to make a new hull design that takes minmal ballast to make a huge clean transom wave on the port or starboard side equally good with a simple push of a fill/empty ballast switch.
    is there anyplace on the web i can view the idea your taliking about?
    thanks for the positive reply
     
  13. rasorinc
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    rasorinc Senior Member

    I have not searched the web as I'm to old to wakeboard but I have seen removable plows. They were attached to the transom with several bolts and the boat had a 5.7 engine. Prop did look a little large. It was more like a $20,000 boat. I think this might be the way to go as I do not see expensive boat sales being very good for awhile. I am sure there are members here who could design a plow blade and the method of attachment should not be to hard to work out as long as it dispurses the load acoss the whole transom.
    Prop size would be a factor as you need high thrust. I have seen dozers pulling dirt plows and laying a furrow 4' high. So, designing one for water cannot be to difficult but it is out of my range. Retrofit might be the way to go. Good Luck. Stan
     
  14. M-Sasha

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    You are not worth any assistance here, in my opinion!
    Wavemaking is usually not really what boaters want.
    Sasha
     

  15. billyc
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    billyc ASCboards Shaper,Glasser

    you two are a perfect ten a 1 and a 0

    Whatevr!hahhaha save your crud for the jerry springer show..please stop hyjacking my thread..like I said I've received plenty of assistance from people with credibility.you two have none that's why your posts are non relevent and uninformative.how do you keep all thos alias's straight?scratch that,it doesn't matter,I really don't care what you think.."People don't want wakes on their boats" hahahhahahahahhahahahaah. Where have you been? Doin hard time? Freeze dried? Do you have cable tv? Ever get out much? Ever heard of wakeboarding\wakeskating\wakesurfing\wakeskimming?? I didn't thinks so.so why would you try and poach a thread you know absolutely NOTHING about?go get a life springerville!leave mine alone
     
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