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Old 09-08-2003, 01:47 PM
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Tiller, Kitchen rudder

2 images of my concept of a simple tiller operated Kitchen rudder have been posted in my gallery. If your not familiar with it, check out this thread.

Kitchen rudder

I would like to hear your opinions ( throw darts if you want ) and or suggestion for improvements. If I stick with this direction my next step is to refine it for ease of construction. Anyone who wants, is welcome to my Rhino file.

Gary

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Old 09-08-2003, 10:12 PM
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Gary,

How many degrees do you have to raise the tiller to produce neutral and reverse flow? If its significant you might want to actuate it with a rotary actuator similar to an outboard throttle. The disadvantages would be more mechanical complexity and you would mess up the period appearance that the sculptured tiller gives.

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Doug
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Old 09-08-2003, 10:27 PM
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I have been working on a few different versions. This one is an attempt to reduce it to the bare minimum. But thank you, the twist grip idea is one I haven’t considered. I will check the total travel at the end of the tiller. I’m working on some sequence shots to show how it operates.

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The tiller end travels about 18.5 inches to reach full reverse. Which is a lot but not that bad.

Gary
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Old 09-09-2003, 07:16 AM
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Gary,

It might be wise to be mindful of the torque required to move and hold the rudder blades in various positions. The original rudders used a worm, which could have exerted a lot of torque. It wouldn't have required any effort on the helmsman's part to hold it in position either. Unfortunately, it's hard to see how you'd get these numbers without a prototype.

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