survey question

[Razgo]

What this story http://www.thecoastalpassage.com/rust.html
fails to tell us i show much did he pay? what did the surveyor price the boat at? surely this surveyor can be reported?

I would also assume not all surveyors are the same but that is sure an eye opener

[Pericles]

Razgo,

You could contact Bob Norson about the surveyor either through his posts on the forum tcpbob or via his publication. http://www.thecoastalpassage.com/recent_issues.html

Good luck,

Pericles

[Razgo]

nah, I am not that interested in chasing up the full story. You can chase it up if you want too.

[rwatson]

Hey Razgo - now you know why so many people prefer to build, and why I was so keen for you to look 'inside' the boat. My experience was with an engine - as you might have guessed.
Plenty of Surveyors get caught out like this. Some will never survey wooden boats, others will not look at certain classes. Imagine a wooden boat new owner finding the entire keel is eaten out by Toredo worm! At least with steel, you have a chance of resurrecting your investment somewhat.
The big rule is - what you cant see, assume is bad, and do your costings accordingly.
In many cases neither the owner nor the surveyor 'know' things are bad (though the owener may have a gut feeling) - and no-one will do destruction tests to check.

On steel boats - its always best to see the hull *before* they put that shiny new coat on. If not, quiz the actual painter (not the owner or agent) on the type of paint, application method, preparation method and ask for photos if there are any. I have even looked in the dumpster to see what paints were actually used - that can be very revealing. I would even pay to have a section of hull scraped back to check the work - whats a few hundred dollars for a $30k investment.
Dont get me started on electricals ......
Caveat Bloody Emptor - with big yellow warning signs!!

[Razgo]

hi rwatson, yes i guess its similar to buying cars or homes only to find out the house is full of white ants and the car diff falls out 4 weeks later.

certainly is buyer beware.

and thats good advice to pay for some paint scraping/repair to investigate further. I guess talking about this stuff to a surveyor before hand too might reveal some surveyors are ruthless whilst others are layback?

either way lots of observation and viewing does seem to the the key.

so yeah i can understand why people build so they know what they are getting. for me i will just have to take all the precautions and make sure i check thoroughly.

[Pericles]

Read this man http://www.yachtsurvey.com/

His online articles are eye openers.

Update, read every one of his favourites.

Pericles

[rwatson]

Hey - I dont know what all the fuss with the Survey is
The fine print says
"No defects were noted "

It doesnt say he looked!!! :-)

[Razgo]

i couldn't see a favorites section. you got any direct links as there is a lot of stuff o that site. I did find a 2 part story on bilge pumps i found extremly benificial http://www.docksidereports.com/small...ety_at_sea.htm and part 2 http://www.docksidereports.com/boat_...ea_Part_II.htm
thanks

[Pericles]

Bottom of main page. How to Decide if
Buying an Older Boat is Right for You.

http://www.yachtsurvey.com/usedboats.htm is one favourite.

Pericles