Submarine Yacht project

[dskira]

Originally Posted by wellmer

Tug,

power requirement of a submarine yacht of 18m is similar to a whale i recommend to go for just 50 horsepower for economic cruising at 5-7 knots ".

This again a proof of your total ignorance of naval architecture.

[wellmer]

Originally Posted by dskira

This again a proof of your total ignorance of naval architecture.

Sure dskira, but what exactly do you refer to?

Does this mean that powering a 200 ton object with 50 horesepower is a design no Naval Achitect ever would do ? - if so - i give you that !

The design is not from a typical Naval Achitect - it is not even my design - it is the design of a Whale.

If you want to explain from the viewpoint of a Naval Architect why a Whale does not work as a "open ocean cruising device design " you have all my attention...

Or will you explain why simmering seals do not work on a sub? - or what is the ARGUMENT ... if there is one...

[dskira]

Originally Posted by wellmer

Sure dskira, but what exactly do you refer to?

Does this mean that powering a 200 ton object with 50 horesepower is a design no Naval Achitect ever would do ? - if so - i give you that !

The design is not from a typical Naval Achitect - it is not even my design - it is the design of a Whale.

If you want to explain from the viewpoint of a Naval Architect why a Whale does not work as a "open ocean cruising device design " you have all my attention...

Or will you explain why simmering seals do not work on a sub? - or what is the ARGUMENT ... if there is one...

It is difficult to argue with an ignorant who think he knows.
I argue that asking investor for something you can't comprehend and have no idea how it will work is plainly criminal.
If you had came her saying: he boys I have an idea can you help me? It will have been nice to help
But you came here with the intention of selling your product which do not exist, insulting all the submariners dead and alive by your arrogance and incompetence.
Then you committed unlawful act by supporting what heki did.
By the your bio is a fake.
All I said is just plainly the truth.

Daniel

[tugboat]

Wil, thanks--
dskira, when i started to design my sub- i built a model ballasted it and tank tested it - i build it to specs of the actual design. when i tank tested it, the sub was incredibly easy to propel. nothing like a surface vessel. It truly does not need very much hp...goes like a dart through the water when ballasted,,,try it at home youll see how little force is needed to keep it moving.

i looked at an old 20 hp petter marine engine. that would push the sub through currents easily at 3knots past the currents speed. the reasoning i wanted lots of troque was because my design is specific to certain areas id be travelling. there is one spot that has a 4 knot current so i need to be able to go into that area- and this petter 20 hp diesel will do that easily. also its economical. i also believe that any naval architect worth his salt will build a model.

Wil, do you mean that the seal surface is flat i.e. the surface of the shaft log would meet flat suface against flat surface?
how thick would you go for the shaft seal? if it was around 1- 2 inch shaft?...

and what do you think of the old petter for an engine? they are full of torque!! and very reliable. the engine is 1500 rpm.

[hoytedow]

Originally Posted by wellmer

Sure dskira, but what exactly do you refer to?

Does this mean that powering a 200 ton object with 50 horesepower is a design no Naval Achitect ever would do ? - if so - i give you that !

The design is not from a typical Naval Achitect - it is not even my design - it is the design of a Whale.

If you want to explain from the viewpoint of a Naval Architect why a Whale does not work as a "open ocean cruising device design " you have all my attention...

Or will you explain why simmering seals do not work on a sub? - or what is the ARGUMENT ... if there is one...

Why does this whale's fluke look as though it was designed to flap backwards?

[wellmer]

Originally Posted by tugboat

Wil, thanks--

Wil, do you mean that the seal surface is flat i.e. the surface of the shaft log would meet flat suface against flat surface?
how thick would you go for the shaft seal? if it was around 1- 2 inch shaft?...

and what do you think of the old petter for an engine? they are full of torque!! and very reliable. the engine is 1500 rpm.

Tug it will probably be better we take our chat to a private space

[Jeff]

Since there has been no new news reported this past year, it seems this thread is not very productive any longer but rather just a rehash of the same, so it's time to close it. If there is something new, let's start a new thread.