submarine built in Colombian jungle

[Dave Gudeman]

Has anyone seen this article about Colombian drug subs? These aren't just towed submersibles, but long-range cargo subs with non-metallic hulls to help avoid sonar detection. What is impressive to me is the description of how they were built. All of the materials and parts apparently were smuggled up a jungle river in small boats.

I wonder if they are going to auction it off after the investigation is over .

[cthippo]

I think they're going to end up in museums. Fiberglass pressure hull. Shows what you can do with unlimited money to get your product to market!

[Squidly-Diddly]

Like Thailand, Argentina or even Red China, then towed to Columbia.

That is what I would do.

My first guess would've been some German ex-pats in Argentina, until I saw the bit about "electrical wires are patched to the walls without any apparent logic".


I'd do a build like that where ordering resin and glass by the ton would be normal, and where lots of big warehouses are at the docks, and where there is an existing boat building industry, and where if you were "found out" half way through the build it wouldn't really matter. Nothing illegal about building a private sub for a "wealthy adventurer".

I'd think towing it across the Pacific would be trivial.

[kerosene]

I would do it out of concrete...

[FAST FRED]

"but long-range cargo subs with non-metallic hulls to help avoid sonar detection."

Sonar listens to sound , usually of the engine operating .
The Sosus net has microphones on the sea floor for 5 decades .

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SOSUS
www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread199115/pg1

Metals from the hull are located with MAD gear,

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnetic_anomaly_detector

FF

[Squidly-Diddly]

With the Soviet nuke sub threat gone, maybe the sub guys needed another Sub Threat for their funding.

[kach22i]

Originally Posted by Squidly-Diddly

With the Soviet nuke sub threat gone, maybe the sub guys needed another Sub Threat for their funding.

Follow the money.

[sabahcat]

Originally Posted by Dave Gudeman

Has anyone seen this article about Colombian drug subs?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narco_submarine

[viking north]

Accoding to the CNN news report they were actually semi submergibles--Ran along with just the conning tower above water. Apparently the operators suffered greatly from heat and fresh air.--

[cthippo]

I've also heard reports that they are now finding true submersibles. The game continues...

[Boston]

they could end the game completely, save themselves a fortune in wasted interdiction costs, prosecution, incarceration, crime and addiction related expenses if they would just legalize and get it over with. In countries where they have done this crime went way down as did addiction rates and drug related deaths. And they saved a ton of money.

oh well
my bet is if gubments weren't making money off it it wouldn't be happening.

that sub is pretty slick, any pictures from inside ?

and ya it does look like they are getting more and more sophisticated, I remember the first ones looked more like wave piercing designs.

[kerosene]

well they can't do that (legalize) even with weed - even in California. So no hope there.

Its funny how apparently prison guard unions were lobbying against the pro weed prop 19 in CA.

How is that for twisted world.


In my opinion (as someone who doesn't us marijuana) make it like booze/tobacco. Start cheap to push illegal competition out and add taxing gradually until its relatively expensive

[Submarine Tom]

They are operated awash not completely submerged snorting for combustion air. There have been many articles about them.

Around here, they are using GPS guided electric kayaks loaded heavy and sealed top-side so they're nearly awash. They are loaded with weed one way and cocaine the other.

Risky business.

-Tom

[cthippo]

Originally Posted by kerosene

well they can't do that even with weed - even in California. So no hope there.

Its funny how apparently prison guard unions were lobbying against prop weed prop 19 in CA.

How is that for twisted world.

If they released everyone who was convicted of simple possession of marijuana in California it would about halve the prison population and the guards would be out of a job.

[Squidly-Diddly]

Fact is any politician getting close to talking about doing something to end the massive profits of Drug Cartels would be either murdered, or more likely be framed from some grotesque headline grabbing crime.

That is why you don't have any politicians able to even discuss "drugs" without suddenly taking on the manner of religious fundamentalist and repeating a host of Drug War platitudes(mostly about "the children") until they can run out of the press conference.

That can't happen with a National Referendum or direct democracy.

To corrupt a Direct Democracy you need to control the fine print of the Referendums offered to the public, which is a lot more work and only partly effective.