Boat Design Forums  |  Boat Design Directory  |  Boat Design Gallery  |  Boat Design Book Store  |  Thanks to Our Site Sponsors

Go Back   Boat Design Forums > Design > Boat Design
Register FAQ Members List Calendar Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
  #1  
Old 02-11-2009, 09:12 AM
Village_Idiot Village_Idiot is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Rep: 75 Posts: 238
Location: USA
Speaking of paddlewheels vs. propellers...

Ok, this is a bit off-topic, but...

Isn't it interesting that the snowmobile industry went to paddles rather than propellers?

What? You say you didn't know the snowmobile industry experimented with propellers (screws)?

Check this out: 1926 Fordson snow tractor
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=568_1233111054

With modern technology, I'd think something similar but much more durable/efficient could be built that would have great application for snow/ice rescues, including out on the lakes, etc. Seems like it would be more efficient than an airboat.

Or to go one step further - how about a pontoon boat with rotating screws for pontoons? It would be semi-amphibious, and great on thin ice. For those of you who enjoy ice-fishing, you know how tempting thin ice can be...
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 02-11-2009, 11:34 AM
tom28571 tom28571 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Rep: 1500 Posts: 1,681
Location: Oriental, NC
It's an impressive machine. I suppose that it lost out to the tracked snow cats.
__________________
Tom Lathrop
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 02-11-2009, 03:24 PM
robherc robherc is offline
Designer/Hobbyist
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Rep: 102 Posts: 433
Location: US/TX
It looks quite DOABLE to me, but I don't see it ever having the efficiency of a track/belt. Also, a drum-design like that, would seem (to me, at least) to require a LOT more space than a track/belt with equivalent traction/grip.
The big advantage I could see for a drum-propulsion "screw" device like this would be for amphibious craft. There, since you need the flotation anywise, it might be "just the ticket." But, then again, it looks like Tom beat me to that observation.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 02-11-2009, 03:38 PM
daiquiri's Avatar
daiquiri daiquiri is offline
Engineering and Design
 
Join Date: May 2004
Rep: 2574 Posts: 2,731
Location: Italy (Garda Lake) and Croatia (Istria)
That was ingenious.
Though much more cumbersome and mechanically complex respect to snowmobiles.
I always find these old documentary-style commercials so affascinating. Really another world compared to nowadays 15-seconds clips which, if you pay attention, say absolutely nothing about the product.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 02-11-2009, 05:53 PM
tom28571 tom28571 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Rep: 1500 Posts: 1,681
Location: Oriental, NC
What we did not mention is that the tractor is a standard Fordson and can be changed from summer to winter use and back again. That is a big advantage to a farmer.
__________________
Tom Lathrop
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 02-11-2009, 06:55 PM
Guest625101138 Guest625101138 is offline
Previous Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Rep: 0 Posts: 0
These sorts of drives are used for mud farming these days.
http://www.totaltailings.com/main/pa...o_gallery.html

There are military versions like this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uynm...eature=related

You can get this toy:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5yIkxN-2BLM

There was a converted snow plough that crossed the arctic:
http://www.icechallenger.com/icechallenger/

There is another thread that covers these drive but I could not find that.

Rick W
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 02-11-2009, 06:55 PM
clmanges clmanges is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Rep: 32 Posts: 258
Location: Ohio
It's already been done in a more modern version, and was a market failure. Looked like one of those little six-wheeled swamp buggies, but with a screw thing on either side, like the old thing in the vid. Each screw was controlled independently forward and backwards, like the tracks on a tank. Great for mud and snow, so-so for water -- no good at all on dry ground, and even worse on pavement -- unless you didn't mind going sideways.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 02-12-2009, 12:16 AM
drmiller100 drmiller100 is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Rep: 2 Posts: 64
Location: Idaho
for snow, the ground would need to be pretty level side to side. I don't see what would keep it from sliding down the hill sideways.
also, you need "outies" on the screws, not "innies" for traction.
Reply With Quote
Reply



Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Modern paddlewheels Guest Boat Design 120 04-24-2012 10:26 AM
Folding propellers Fuchsia Sailboats 22 01-08-2011 08:21 AM
i need propellers lifetime Marketplace 4 07-25-2005 10:00 AM
Propellers propellerman Materials 0 04-01-2005 09:13 AM
Speaking of keels - advice/comments sought Ed Harrow Wooden Boat Building and Restoration 4 04-07-2004 07:01 PM


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:21 AM.


Powered by: vBulletin Copyright ©2000 - 2012, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Web Site Design and Content Copyright ©1999 - 2012 Boat Design Net