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Old 04-03-2011, 01:58 PM
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Semiplaning / transitional Hull

Our VersaBoat is a 9'-4" rescue boat with bow characteristics of both ends for equal reverse paddling.

Rescuers now want an ability to use an outboard, so I notched out the stern and provided a pad on a 15 degree angle for the outboard.

Both my 75 lb and 40 lb motors pitched the boat bow-up and powered it up to about 5 mph. More power just increaed the pitch and bogged it down. Both were mounted at different heights and tilt, but nothing seemed to approach planing.

Admittedly, I have curved surfaces and not the typical sharp transition from hull to stern. Is there anyway to accomplish this without compromising the reverse motion ability?

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Old 04-03-2011, 02:12 PM
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Probably not. A boat that small needs some help in the aft bottom if it is expected to plane. What you describe does not sound like what is needed. Some more information and photos would be helpful. Double enders make questionable planing boats at best and usually need help in the form of aft wings or significant aft flat surfaces.
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Old 04-03-2011, 02:23 PM
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Maybe some sort of horizontal foil on the outboard? The picture below is from the April/May issue of Professional Boatbuilder mag.
The foil design by Russell Brown in Port Townsend WA is all carbon and unique compared to the other commercially available foils.
Description"..... as evidenced here by a foil easily mounted to the lower unit of his outboard motor, which slightly raises the stern and reduces wake."
The article is "Outside the Box" by Dan Spurr. You may be able to contact Russell Brown directly or reach Spur thru proboat@proboat.com
This wouldn't change the hull at all and would help only when using the outboard...Hope this helps a bit.

Russell Brown contact: http://www.ptfoils.com/

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Old 04-03-2011, 02:41 PM
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Semiplaning / Transitional Hull

Thanks guys! The hull is cathedral and 40" wide much like a Water Tender 9.4

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Old 04-03-2011, 03:38 PM
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With the "exit" you have on the aft sections, you'll never get it up on plane unless you provide some bearing area and most importantly a clean flow separation point. The wing that Doug mentions can work, though some experimentation would be necessary for size, shape and section. With the grotesque lack of power, I suspect you'll still never get it up on plane. The biggest motor you have is less then a single HP, so you're limited propulsive effort will keep you at low speeds.

At the assumed LWL of 9.33' you are traveling at 1.63 S/L ratio which is above typical displacement speeds, but well below full plane. you'll need to be traveling at least 9 MPH to plane off and this will take a couple of HP (minimum), assuming your wave train is surmountable. Looking at the shape of your hull, I'd say 2 HP will do it, but there's a lot of drag with that hull shape (wheels and all?), so maybe 3 HP will be necessary just to sustain full plane, without "falling off" with every wave, contrary currents and winds.
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Old 04-04-2011, 07:47 AM
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That is just about opposite of any hull shape or size that I would expect to be designed as a planing boat. I don't think more power and/or wings are going to do it either. I count 16 holes through the hull that must be there for draining water. That is fine at paddling speed but there were probably 16 waterspouts when under power. If a planing rescue boat is needed, I suggest you should start over and forget about this hull. It is easy enough (but not optimum) to paddle a boat designed for planing but not so much the other way round.
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