schooner design, is it a motor sailor?

[ongolo]

Hi all, I have not been here for a while, but I have designed and built my own steel schooner. I think it is a success, but I did not think my first attempt would move so easily. So if anything is wrong, it is over canvassed.

I am prpared to put up pictures or drawings in jpg format if anybody is interested.

I read earlier posts and somebody asked there (in 2006) for any new designs.

Let me know if you are interested.

I read also some discussions on design and comparison, some of these details scare me a bit because I dont understand them.

My specs are as follows:

LOA21m, LOD 16m, LWL15m, beam 3.8m, displacement 27 metr.tons, ballast 11 tons. long keel. gaff rigged.

Regards ongolo

[Gilbert]

Please do post some pictures. It sounds like a very nice boat.

[ongolo]

Ok Giulbert, will try to atttach pic. Not sure if I get it right. Other wise under the yahoo group BACKYARDBOATBUILDING 2, is a file BOAT222 that is a description of thew building of the boat and some pictures as well.
Will try to post it here too.

[safewalrus]

Wow!!! Thats stood the modern boating world on it's head a bit! A bit narrow gutted for my liking (but there again the Victorians etc used extremely narrow boats and they were far faster than today and apparantly no less stable) and of course there are other small things that are not me but overall I like it!! Jealous as hell - its got to be the way to go to get what YOU want! And you've proved it can be done (by amateurs), which is even better, gives us all hope to achieve our dreams - not all as grand as yours of course but still relevant! Thank you.

[charmc]

Ongolo,

Congratulations! You've designed and built a beautiful schooner. I'd love to see photos of her in the water (use the little paper clip icon above your message or the "manage attachments" button below; makes attaching photos very easy).

Your paper on the design parameters and build process is worthy of being published as an article. It's an excellent guide for anyone contemplating building a cruiser able to go offshore.

You've completed what so many only dream about. Again, congratulations.

[ongolo]

Hi there, thank you for the kind comments.

Here lets see if I got this uploading bit taped ok.

Regards
WAH

[ongolo]

[quote=charmc;169433]Ongolo,


Your paper on the design parameters and build process is worthy of being published as an article. It's an excellent guide for anyone contemplating building a cruiser able to go offshore.

Hi there,

Well I sent the article (and an article on paint experiments) to PBO (Practical Boat Owners) but they were not interested. Possibly my english is not good enough or I stepped on some people toes who advertise regularly.

If you like to submit the article, feel free to so, but a proper copyright notice must be included and all credit and copyright control will be retained by me as the author. I expect a complimentary copy of whatever publication will carry the article.

Thank you

WAH

[Man Overboard]

Ongolo,

I very much enjoyed your article, I can tell your a pretty smart guy; I would like to congratulate you on completing such an arduous task. I too am going through the same process that you have just been through. It is time for me to start the design process. You are an inspiration. Like you, people think I am a bit crazy for even thinking of building a large boat, but I love this sort of thing. If I complete it before i am dead and am able to sail around the world, well, that will be icing on the cake.

[ongolo]

Hi Tom,

Are you the same MANOVER BOARD that is sometimes in yahoo sailing chat? There is somebody there by that name.

There is much more to my boat than what I have described.

In the process i also designed:

a) indestructable, thermally protectet, reverse polarity protected battery charger up to 15 or 20 Amps

b) an oil bath sterntube

c) a trust bearing using common parts and can be replaced easily

d) using car (VW Kombi) side shafts to eliminate all align ment problems of enging/gearbox

e) made my own flame-fail gas stove

f) designed an electronic alarms system for over/under voltage, water in diesel and gas alarm all in one unit.

g) made my own anchors (tested recently for three days in 48Kn winds)

f) made jigs and tools to 'manufacture' single and dual blocks. Actually I sold some of them as well.

If I can in anyway give you advice, let me know. Unfortunately, due to circumstances, I may have to sell my boat. Depends amongs other things on an outcome of an operation.

Regards

Ongolo

[Man Overboard]

No about the yahoo group; I don't have much time to visit a variety of forums, so I pretty much stick to this one and from time to time a couple of others. If there is a forum that I should be checking out let me know.

Sorry to hear about your medical condition, I too have had my share of life problems that have set me back a few years. I have a friend who just put his 55 foot sailboat, that he built, in the water. He is 70. He told me to not wait until I have all of the money in the bank, just get started right away. I think it is going to take me 2 years to design it with materials testing and model testing, assuming I catch on to the software fairly quickly. I don't think the software side of it will be a problem. It is just picking which one will be the best for all around. I have used AutoCad and am fairly familiar with it, so I think I am going to choose software that integrates well with it. I don't want to use an off brand, as I will probably have a Navel Architect look over the design and make suggestions along the way. I noticed you had people helping you; I think that is smart, I need to run a small crew or I don't think I will complete it in a reasonable amount of time. It took my friend 15 years to finish his. He did a real nice job, almost to good; it looks like a production built boat.

I wish you the best with your surgery, my prayers are with you.

Originally Posted by ongolo;

Hi Tom,

Are you the same MANOVER BOARD that is sometimes in yahoo sailing chat? There is somebody there by that name.

There is much more to my boat than what I have described.

In the process i also designed:

a) indestructable, thermally protectet, reverse polarity protected battery charger up to 15 or 20 Amps

b) an oil bath sterntube

c) a trust bearing using common parts and can be replaced easily

d) using car (VW Kombi) side shafts to eliminate all align ment problems of enging/gearbox

e) made my own flame-fail gas stove

f) designed an electronic alarms system for over/under voltage, water in diesel and gas alarm all in one unit.

g) made my own anchors (tested recently for three days in 48Kn winds)

f) made jigs and tools to 'manufacture' single and dual blocks. Actually I sold some of them as well.

If I can in anyway give you advice, let me know. Unfortunately, due to circumstances, I may have to sell my boat. Depends amongs other things on an outcome of an operation.

Regards

Ongolo

My congratulation, I KNOW the effort you made
your boat is not pretty, but you have courage, and fortitude and are pretty clever
I guarantee you will build another one day
i did one, my first, took 7 years, I started with 1000, and finished her was huge sacrifice, so i know what you went through
And can I offer one word of advise, and this is it
IT IS JUST AS EASY TO MAKE A BEAUTIFUL boat as a one that is not, the same effort, same sacrifices
difference is, you will make money on your beautul, or hansom boat
and this is not a critism, just a word from my walk through life as boatbuilder

[Gilbert]

My two favorite sayings regarding boats are these.
Beauty is as beauty does.
And, the proof is in the pudding.
So, if it powers well, sails well, and handles well and has good behavior, that is as beautiful as it needs to be.