Schooner 100 foot plans

[D'ARTOIS]

I have had a 100 ft Schooner that I sold for reasons of being impossible to set sail alone. So I know of what I am talking.
400 sq. metres of sail
450 hp main engine
120 hp bowthruster
2 x 80 hp generators
4000 gallons gasoil

400-220-24-12 V systems

100 x 22 x 10 ft

Costs of masts and rigging: 125.000 euro
Sails 60.000 euro
engines 300.000 euro

etc
etc
etc

What are you talking about?

The above mentioned costs are just a few items:

What about interior, electricity, plumbing systems, waste water tanks etc.

Do you have any idea about the complexity of such a vessel.

Buy a used one - in all varieties from 200.000 euro to 6.000.000,-- euro and more........ saves you a lot of trouble!!!!

[RANCHI OTTO]

D'Artois = rich man

[danysordelli]

D'Artois, i have a question for u.

Engines = 300.000 EU
Mast = 125.000 EU

Wy found boat for 200.000 EU and you pay 300.000 EU only for the engine. Wy is the huge price variances

In Argentina we found any part for a very low diferent price.

So i agree, one 100' schooner is not boat for sail alone.

[danysordelli]

D'artois

I'm sure you can get some items (ei.: Wood mast) for a very low cost that mentioned. However, 120 HP in bow engine?, is not too much?

Soory about my ignorance, i'm a beginner.

[D'ARTOIS]

The boat I described was a navy-sailing vessel transformed into a yacht. So, the hull was already there and had the required characteristics for sailing.

What I am talking abouts is that you have to start from scratch. Or, maybe you will find a hull of a fishing vessel of traditional lines that maybe a basis for the boat you want. In this particular respect, the Schooner rig is the best one and also very efficient; more efficient than a Ketch rig.

Wooden masts here in Holland are more expensive than aluminium ones, so that might answer your question. Simply taking a long spar in way of a mast is out of the question.

Boats in this particular length are very costly to maintain, Gasoil, lubrication oil,
the daily jobs, the supporting systems - everything requires daily attention and daily repair.

I don't know what you can get in Argentina or not, I have not the slightest idea's what pricwes are, but I do export a lot of ship's parts all over the world and so prices cannot vary that much: on the contrary.

My company is specialised in supplying foreign navies so only parts that are manufactured in Argentina could be less expensive than similar parts manufactured in e.g. Germany or Holland.

It is a simple tale of economics.

If you start from scratch, you have to perfom the work yourself or yolu need hired labour.
As a beginner you are not capable of installing a main engine and all the components around by yourself.
So you require some shipwrights to do the major works. Of course your team can help. In way of doing you are learning, however it will be an expensive lesson.........

[danysordelli]

D'Artois

May be you rigth. And your opinion have concens here. We are ouwner of little boat (all the team) and the begin very hard with a very big boat. Perhaps is good idea to start with a little project and see late.

Tank for you reply

Regards

Dany

[CapKos]

Ehh! It is so nice to dream…
I’m dreaming for 40 fts. ketch, but you guys are much stronger in that. Anyway, I don’t know any 100 fts. schooner for free, but know one 43 fts., which looks beautiful. See:

www.georgebuehler.com/Archie.html

Good luck,
CapKos

[araboy]

you can also build this boat in Indonesia
One of the best place to build is in Sangeang village of East Sumbawa, just next to Komodo Island of Indonesia

Info at : http://www.boatbuildingindonesia.com

[viking north]

My great, and great-great grandfathers, built sailing craft up to the hundred foot range and made regular yearly trips to the islands and south america(dry fish out,rum,timber,whatever back). Regular yearly trips to Europe,( dry fish over, usually salt from Spain return) In nov. load up with xmas trees sell them at the docks in Boston and New York. I mention this in that these vessels travelled the world and were built from half models,( a block of carved wood) but in our todays world that art is almost lost, however there are parts of the world where such is the norm and for less than the cost of a set of plans they can build the entire vessel and to the very best standards. We should not discount that, as our world is not but a fraction of the whole world. So Danny Sorelli maybe this could be your opening to the dream,helping some developing country by creating jobs and not just throwing donations at them.Maybe put in sweat equity on that location. Hey it's an option and on forums thats what it's about. Geo.

[Tanton]

115' American Fisherman Schooner.
Plans TYD#20001.
CG. Plans approved.