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Old 05-29-2007, 07:10 PM
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replica of rusted out lawn ornament

Over in the park in front of the Canal corporation (NYS Barge Canal) in Lyons ny, there's a rusted out lawn ornament that catches my eye.

Would I be stepping on a (probably dead) designers toes if I built a one-off version of this pretty boat ?

28' loa ,6.5' beam.
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Old 05-29-2007, 07:14 PM
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more ornament

or must I say 'this is the INSPIRATION ' of my replica
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Old 05-29-2007, 07:15 PM
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Replica of rusted lawn ornament

I don't see why you shouldn't. I should think the original builder would be flattered. After all who has copyright on 'plastic gnomes' ?
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Old 05-30-2007, 04:15 AM
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You should be able to take the lines and measurements right off the boat , and photo document the internal fraiming.

Or if you want a bit more speed

http://www.steamlaunch.co.nz/whio.html

sells plans.

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Old 05-30-2007, 11:56 AM
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Looks like someone has used the boat to fashion a greenhouse. That is a far better fate for a lovely old boat than having it rust out in ignominious anonymity.
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Old 05-30-2007, 02:18 PM
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I wouldn't pull the line directly off the boat, it has obvious hull distortion issues, likely from living on the hard for many years.

It's very probable that the Canal Corporation has the lines, possibly construction details of the several different type of craft used on the barge cannel. I'm sure they would have little issue with a "in the spirit off . . ." type of replication. Contact them, with an interest about the design and other design types, for historical reasons. Maybe you're doing a paper on the subject, etc. They'll probably trip over themselves to help you out.

Remember these are barge hull forms, which are intended to load down evenly, not necessarily much more then get dragged with some level of efficiency. They were slab sided for this reason and many had constant deadrise.

What would be you intended use for such a reproduction?
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Old 05-30-2007, 06:52 PM
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PAR, the intended purpose ?

let me digress a little first. We currently live on a small 2 sq mile lake. we use the boat below as a 'have a beer after dinner launch' .

I've been trying to talk the bosslady into doing the ICW to FL, or maybe the great loop. She's kinda leary of the whole thing. So maybe if I start with just doing the Erie, Rideau and Trent-Severn I could win her over to the greater trips.

Well, what could be more fun than doing the canal in a true canal boat. I'd even paint it blue and yellow so I could blend in. ofcourse the pavilion would house some living quarters.

Plus I love welding, and since I'd eventually like to build an AL cruiser, I thought I'd take a diversion on the way to that boat.

Plus that age old ' cause it's there'.
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