Boat Design Forums  |  Boat Design Directory  |  Boat Design Gallery  |  Boat Design Book Store  |  Thanks to Our Site Sponsors

Go Back   Boat Design Forums > Design > Boat Design
Register FAQ Members List Calendar Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
  #1  
Old 03-30-2007, 10:37 AM
witzgall witzgall is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Rep: 10 Posts: 9
Location: Apex, NC
Polysufide used in Cold molded boat?

Hi all;

I am looking at another cold molded boat. This one is in immaculate condition, with amazing wordwork both inside and out - it was owner built in 1973. The fit and finish are top knotch and has been kept that way over the years.

I do have a concern. The owner described the hull construction as using two layers of wood stip/epoxy, fasened with monel ring-nails. The third layer is bonded using Polysuflide and monel ring nails (To 1 foot above waterline), then epoxy, and then vecra cloth, and epoxy to fair. So you have a hull with two strip planked layers, and one carvel.

Should I be concerned about the polysulfide in a 30+ year old boat? IS/was this common practice?

Chris
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 03-30-2007, 09:32 PM
witzgall witzgall is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Rep: 10 Posts: 9
Location: Apex, NC
nobody has anything to say?

Chris
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 03-31-2007, 05:51 AM
FAST FRED FAST FRED is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Rep: 700 Posts: 3,208
Location: Conn in summers , Ortona FL in winter , with big dock & room for O'nite stop .
I guess no one has actually seen the results of such construction.

On many early boats a layer of muzllin laid into white lead was used between layers. But these boats had fastenings holding the layers together AND fast to the boat.

Weather your construction is similar???

IF the hull looks great , with no signs of repair , it would seem a suitable test of time , for that level of service..

FF
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 04-01-2007, 02:50 AM
Pericles's Avatar
Pericles Pericles is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Rep: 1040 Posts: 1,645
Location: The heights of High Wycombe, not too far from River Thames
There are single and 2 part Polysulphide adhesives.
In your position I would seek the services of a marine surveyor.

Pericles
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 04-02-2007, 12:47 AM
PAR's Avatar
PAR PAR is offline
Yacht Designer & Builder
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Rep: 2891 Posts: 8,798
Location: Eustis, FL
I wouldn't be too concerned about the polysulfide. It shows the builder was experienced and had the sense not to use polyurethane (on wood) below the waterline. This isn't a common construction method, but does follow similar building practices found before true waterproof adhesives and sealants were available. If possible, see if you can get at some of the polysulfide, like at a thru hull fitting. If it's still pliable there, it will likely be elsewhere. If it isn't, then you may have cause for concern and a deeper inspection should be used, possibly with core samples.
Reply With Quote
Reply



Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
convert cold molded frame to batten seam planking dave g Wooden Boat Building and Restoration 4 05-03-2006 09:47 AM
Cold molded boat repair Compass Open Discussion: All Things Boats & Boating 0 03-21-2006 11:54 AM
Strip planking / Cold molded ? fcfc Wooden Boat Building and Restoration 22 05-19-2005 09:55 PM
Wood Cold Molded Epoxy/Composite Builders winap Wooden Boat Building and Restoration 6 07-23-2004 08:02 AM
Cold Molded Construction & Long Term Value fishboat Powerboats 2 06-03-2003 04:02 PM


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:54 AM.


Powered by: vBulletin Copyright ©2000 - 2012, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Web Site Design and Content Copyright ©1999 - 2012 Boat Design Net