PLASTIC BAGS and our WATER WORLD

[the1much]

hehehe

[longliner45]

Brian ,,sorry this had to happen on such a good thread,,,,longliner

[brian eiland]

Lets take a deep breath and have a 'fishing laugh':

The American businessman was at the pier of a small coastal Mexican village
when a small boat with just one fisherman docked. Inside the small boat were
several large yellowfin tuna. The American complimented the Mexican on the
quality of his fish and asked how long it took to catch them.

The Mexican replied, "Only a little while."

The American then asked why didn't he stay out longer and catch more fish.

The Mexican said he had enough to support his family's immediate needs.

The American then asked, "But what do you do with the rest of your time?"

The Mexican fisherman said, "I sleep late, fish a little, play with my
children, take siesta with my wife, Maria, and stroll into the village each
evening where I sip wine and play guitar with my amigos. I have a full and
busy life, señor."

The American scoffed, "I am a Harvard MBA and could help you. You should spendmore time fishing and with the proceeds buy a bigger boat. With the proceeds from the bigger boat you could buy several boats and eventually you would have a fleet of fishing boats. Instead of selling your catch to a middleman you would sell directly to the processor, eventually opening your own cannery. You would control the product, processing and distribution. You would need to leave this small coastal fishing village and move to Mexico City, then Los Angeles, and eventually New York where you will run your expanding enterprise."

The Mexican fisherman asked, "But señor, how long will this all take?"

To which the American replied, "Fifteen to 20 years."

"But what then, señor?"

The American laughed and said, "That's the best part. When the time is right
you would announce an IPO and sell your companies stock to the public and
become very rich. You would make millions."

"Millions, señor? Then what?"

The American said, "Then you would retire. Move to a small coastal fishing
village where you would sleep late, fish a little, play with your kids, take
siesta with your wife, stroll to the village in the evenings where you could
sip wine and play your guitar with your amigos."

[brian eiland]

...might as well add one more...

How to Sell (fishing gear)

A young fellow from Oklahoma moves to California and goes to a big 'everything under one roof' department store looking for a job.

The manager says, "Do you have any sales experience?"
The kid says, "Yeah, I was a salesman back home in Oklahoma."
Well, the boss liked the kid so he gave him the job.
"You start tomorrow. I'll come down after we close and see how you did "

His first day on the job was rough but he got through it. After the store was locked up, the boss came down...

"How many sales did you make today?"
The kid says, "One."
The boss says, "Just one? Our sales people average 20 or 30 sales a day. You're going to have to improve considerably or look for another job! How much was the sale for?"
The kid says, "$112,237.64."

The boss says, "$112,237.64 !! What the hell did you sell ?"

Kid says, "First I sold him a small fish hook. Then I sold him a medium fish hook. Then I sold him a larger fish hook. Then I sold him a new fishing rod.

Then I asked him where he was going fishing and he said down at the lake, so I told him he was gonna need a boat, so we went down to the boat department and I sold him a new bass boat.

Then he said he didn't think his Honda Civic would pull it, so I took him down to the automotive department and sold him that new Ford pick-up. I asked him how long he was going to be out at the lake and after he said 5 or 6 days I took him down to the RV department and sold him a slide-in camper for the truck."

The boss said, "A guy came in here to buy a fish hook and you sold him a boat, a truck and a camper?"

Kid says, "No, he came in here to buy a box of tampons for his wife and I said, 'Well, your weekend's shot, you might as well go fishing

[masalai]

Huh? are recycling jokes as well as plastic bags (sigh) hehehe

[masalai]

My memory is failing in the filing system, - - capacity is still good, just issues with where I put my memories and accessing that part..... I am sure those have been posted at least twice before each...... recycling and multiple use is good - - - - sometimes...............

[safewalrus]

Well the movement to ban plastic bags and plastic in general moves slowly, but it is moving and gathering strength as it goes -problem is is it moving fast enough? Probably not with the likes of Maximus Dickus or whatever his name is - trouble is a lot of the world is like that - anything for a 'pull' but willing to do nothing to help....sad!

[the1much]

im thinking of buying up all them plastic diaper wraps they put on us old folks after we jus dont care any more,,hehe

[brian eiland]

Originally Posted by masalai

Huh? are recycling jokes as well as plastic bags (sigh) hehehe

You are correct, they were recycled. But I felt it might cool things off a little to inject some humor...and since we had a couple of 'fishy guys' involved I picked fishing jokes

[Maxim Projet]

Originally Posted by safewalrus

Well the movement to ban plastic bags and plastic in general moves slowly, but it is moving and gathering strength as it goes -problem is is it moving fast enough? Probably not with the likes of Maximus Dickus or whatever his name is - trouble is a lot of the world is like that - anything for a 'pull' but willing to do nothing to help....sad!

IMO banning plastic bags is a minor environmental priority. The dolphin-huggers here probably don't think so, but they probably believe any old crap...

There have been about 3 documented cases of dolphins choked by plastic bags, worldwide, in the last few years. The plastic bags that did choke those dolphins were used to hold bait. (Proving, once again, that fishermen are the cause of most of the world's marine problems. )
Thankfully, rising oil prices will keep many of them on land and hopefully that will allow the marine environment to recover from their ignorant vandalism.

[the1much]

heh............my turn yet?

[longliner45]

ya know,,,,,,,,dolphines dont eat anything dead or on a lure they can see fishing lines and hooks,in the water,,they use sonar to seek thier pray,,and can kill with high pitch sound ,spend about 90% of thier time playing ,,what facts do you have that dolphines have choked on plastic bags?

[longliner45]

he comes here not seeking knowledge,,,,or offering any,,,,just stirring , ,,welly was band for far less

[brian eiland]

...from another forum

I conducted a research on recycling during an internship a short time ago. Here is some 'fresh info' on this; firstly, the figures in the slides seem a bit low.

If you wish to recycle PE bags to 'master-batch' form for re-production, you have to buy a machine that costs $45,000 from China, and assign one person to operate it daily. It doesn't cost $4000 to recycle one ton, I don't understand how they achieved that number. The 'state' in developed countries gives significant subsidies if you send these bags to another country for re-processing. For example, Germany has passed a law for an approximately 50-60 million Euro incentive for exporting plastic waste. So your costs are even less if you use recycled.

A ton of recycled 'master-batch' PE can be sold for at least more than $200. The $32 figure is too low. If there is someone who sells a ton of PE for $32 I really want their phone number . The increase in petrol prices affects raw materials including new PE, so recycled bags are even cheaper to use nowadays. I don't understand how manufacturing bags from new PE are cheaper than using recycled polyethylene as the article mentions. The lack of volume in recycled PE production looks like the main inhibitor as to why there isn’t enough to go around for everyone.

Imho, the households' choice of trash bags will be very important for the future. I might be wrong on my statistics too, also it's difficult to keep track, especially in the case of developing countries.

An article on 2007 PE raw material prices:
http://news.dow.com/dow_news/prodbus.../20071207a.htm

[longliner45]

weres max???? I was just starting to like him