piss-poor boat plans!......

[BertKu]

Originally Posted by rwatson

Theres a lot in what you say Bert. If there's not a real meeting of minds between designer and client, its a potential upset.

Who was it that said "Never sign a contract with anyone where a handshake wouldn't have been good enough in the first place"

You are so right, I have allways enjoyed dealing with Australians. (and New Zealanders)
Bert

[pdwiley]

Originally Posted by BertKu

Last week I bought a lathe/milling machine and 316 stainless steel, because the engineering company tried to convince me that 304 is good enough.
Bert

Off topic for this thread, but if the machine you bought is one of those 3 in 1 lathe/mill/drill combinations, good luck on your 316 stainless. The cheap 3 in 1 machines are fundamentally useless for any of their purported tasks.

Second point, depending on where the stainless was to go and what it was to do, perhaps 304 was good enough. Hell, I use 303 for some things because it machines so beautifully. Not below the WL exposed to salt water however.

On plans, I bought mine from a designer who'd actually built 5 hulls himself from his design, in his own yard. I've nearly finished welding my hull together and the only real problems have been mine due to lack of experience and regardless, it's come together fine. If I were to build another one of the same design it'd be a lot faster and if I decide to build a larger boat in steel I'll buy the plans from the same designer as I know the hull can be built to the plans provided.

PDW

[BertKu]

Originally Posted by pdwiley

Off topic for this thread, but if the machine you bought is one of those 3 in 1 lathe/mill/drill combinations, good luck on your 316 stainless. The cheap 3 in 1 machines are fundamentally useless for any of their purported tasks.

I seem to be doing fine., but I have special bits and drills.

Second point, depending on where the stainless was to go and what it was to do, perhaps 304 was good enough. Hell, I use 303 for some things because it machines so beautifully. Not below the WL exposed to salt water however.

I tried to illustrate that a builder could deviate from their designer and there will be a dispute and breakdown. Unfortunately I am dealing with salt water and like to stick to 316.

On plans, I bought mine from a designer who'd actually built 5 hulls himself from his design, in his own yard. I've nearly finished welding my hull together and the only real problems have been mine due to lack of experience and regardless, it's come together fine. If I were to build another one of the same design it'd be a lot faster and if I decide to build a larger boat in steel I'll buy the plans from the same designer as I know the hull can be built to the plans provided.

PDW

I am pleased you have a good relationship and trust with this designer. It illustrate my point that it boils down to the relationship between designer and amateur boat builder. Show us some photo's, love to see your progress.
Bert