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Old 12-13-2007, 01:41 PM
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Pentamaran Ferry

Pentamaran
BMT ro-pax


RFI: If anyone has time to do some searching on Google or has information on this topic, please post it.

From what I've read BMT is in the advanced stages of design for an in the USA east and Gulf of Mexico coastal route 40 plus knot 175 trailer or 75 trailer plus 500 car and 1,800 passenger ship.

See the last page of this PDF:
http://media.bmt.org/bmt_media/resou...2007Issue1.pdf

First found here:
http://www.bmt.org/Search/index.asp

More news (year old):
http://www.ngal.co.uk/News/?/0/0/135
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Fincantieri and BMT Nigel Gee and Associates announce co-operation agreement
16/02/2006

Europe’s leading innovative shipbuilder, Fincantieri, has signed an agreement with BMT Nigel Gee and Associates Ltd, a subsidiary of BMT Ltd, to develop and market advanced high-speed ships based on BMT’s patented Pentamaran designs and advanced catamaran hull forms.

The agreement, for an initial three year period, will focus on large, fast, efficient multi-hulls for modal shift fast freight applications. On signing the agreement in Genoa, Nigel Gee, Managing Director of BMT Nigel Gee and Associates, said: “We recognised that in order to take the final step in bringing our mature designs to fruition as built vessels, we needed to work with Europe’s best shipbuilding talent and are delighted that we have been able to conclude an agreement with Fincantieri.”

The Pentamaran hull forms comprise mature designs with classification society approval for Ro-Pax, Ro-Ro, Lo-Lo and sealift variants, all capable of speeds of 40 knots and above.

Fincantieri Marketing and Business Development Chief Executive, Vincenzo Farinetti, added: “Fincantieri has been at the forefront of building for fast commercial and naval applications for the past two decades and recognises that the time is now right to develop in the field of much needed fast freight vessels to serve the Mediterranean and the wider world market. I believe the BMT Pentamaran represents the best of the currently available designs and we are impressed by the extensive design portfolio and the maturity of the designs, both structurally and hydrodynamically.”

Fincantieri and BMT are already in discussion with a number of interested ship owners and hope to move towards the first Pentamaran shipbuilding contract soon.
A picture would be nice.

EDIT:
http://testngal.bmthq.com/?/344/256/175
Could be 4th one down?
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Old 12-14-2007, 03:13 AM
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Hi Kachi,

I used to work for BMT when the idea of a pentamaran was first mooted. My office worked on a frigate variant, but I was not directly involved.

http://www.bmtdsl.com/BMT/bmt_media/...5DataSheet.pdf
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Old 12-14-2007, 08:37 AM
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Thank you very much PI Design, I now have a much better idea of what is going on.

However I'm now puzzled on why the thin side wall sponsons are broken up in the middle like that. I suppose the craft may not be able to turn very well with just a single long sponson/fin each side of the main slender hull. That's just a first guess though.

I've seen pictures of this ship or something similar before, but it totaly slipped my mind. The other drawings were sketchy artist renderings or simple computer renderings (well done) if I recall correctly.
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Old 12-14-2007, 08:49 AM
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However I'm now puzzled on why the thin side wall sponsons are broken up in the middle like that.
'Cos it would only be a trimaran otherwise . Seriously though, the idea is that the centre hull is quite narrow (for less drag) and the aft sponsons are just submergerged at the design waterline. The forward sponsons are above the static waterline and only sumberge (and hence provide stability) when the ship rolls/lists. This reduces the wetted surface area of the (upright) hull form and hence reduces drag. Its all about not having any more ship in the water than you need. Of course, you could have 3, 4 or 20 sponsons each side, each stepped slightly higher above the waterline than the previous one. Taking this to its logical extreme, you would have a single continuos sponson which raked up as it went forward. But that's a trimaran...

There are other advantages, such as good survivability charecteristics.
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Old 12-14-2007, 09:28 AM
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the aft sponsons are just submergerged at the design waterline. The forward sponsons are above the static waterline and only sumberge (and hence provide stability) when the ship rolls/lists.
I saw on the drawing that the forward sponsons looked higher, but I did not know what to make of it.

Thank you once again for explaining the design intent.
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Hi Kachi,

I used to work for BMT when the idea of a pentamaran was first mooted. My office worked on a frigate variant, but I was not directly involved.

http://www.bmtdsl.com/BMT/bmt_media/...5DataSheet.pdf
No kidding...I've worked with Eddie, John, Nigel and crew for almost 20 years now..most recently on the USN X-craft project, but previously on their Beliyard and Samsung SES, etc. Their Pentamaran concept is being plugged for the Short Sea Shipping/Marine Highway iniatives that are gaining some momentum these days.

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PDF on Pentamaran Hull Form

Here's an interesting PDF someone posted on another forum recently
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Old 12-18-2007, 10:22 AM
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Here's an interesting PDF someone posted on another forum recently
Thanks, at 31 pages long I'll just view this document on-screen and not print it out. This is not the short haul coastal shipping thing, across the Atlantic 5-day fast shipping is intriguing.

I bet the design will do good against rouge wave too.
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