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Old 01-05-2012, 01:38 PM
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OK... would someone explain this to me? ...

http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/boa/2780025525.html

What is that thing? Would it sail? ... I don't even know what to ask!
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Old 01-05-2012, 02:30 PM
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That thing looks like quite the machine. That A frame mast with what looks like one big mother of a low aspect ratio furling jib as the only sail should be a very reasonable sailer. Sort of on the lines of a lateen set up as on the arab dows in the Med. Very interesting craft and from the construction material specs. very well built. Would like to see the stability specs., I'm always leary of shallow draft sailers. Anyhow thats my first impressions for what it's worth ---Geo.
P.s. Man that guy in there looks like my Uncle Albert -- He's looking good for a guy thats been dead for some 30yrs. past --he was quite the boat builder also--

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Old 01-05-2012, 02:32 PM
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I know nothing... nothing.. about boat design... but I have the money... should I buy that? I mean... JUST TO HAVE IT?
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Old 01-05-2012, 02:35 PM
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Actually the hull looks like a west coast sled. ULDB. long , thin and fast. Not bad.

But the rigging and deck has been bastardized. Poor thing looks sad.

Dont touch it.
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Old 01-05-2012, 02:53 PM
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Michael, I know you're highly qualified but why would you give that advise without looking over the specs on the machine. A non traditional approach to the rigging doesn't mean it's not a good performer. My only concern and this is just one of my pet peaves re sailing craft is she is shoal draft which is always a bit of a trade off re stability. Once that was satisfied I would have no quams about putting her thru her paces. --Geo.
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Old 01-05-2012, 03:01 PM
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http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/boa/2780025525.html

What is that thing? Would it sail? ... I don't even know what to ask!

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Sleek Apocalyptic Survival Sailboat/Motorboat - $27000 (Bodega Bay)

Date: 2012-01-02, 2:49PM PST

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47'x9.5'x5.0' long, narrow, shallow draft Kevlar, carbon fiber, epoxy, solidly constructed, high hull speed, extra long range expedition vessel. Massive tankage, radar, plotter, forward looking sonar, hydronic heater, hydraulic steering, Lavac head. 12 tons loaded, 4 tons internal lead ballast.
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It's the answer to a question from 8½ years ago . . . .

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Still looking for someone who knows a person onboard this vessel............north west USA

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See the thread - WishBone Sailing Rig . . . . . .

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Old 01-05-2012, 03:02 PM
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I seriously question the rig's suitability for high winds.

How do you reef? Furling the sail shifts the CE forward, i.e. lee helm.

on edit: The second photo helps. With a staysail, it's not as bad as I thought but still, adjusting the sail area radically changes the CE.

Apparently the boat made the trip from Port Orchard, WA to San Fransisco, so it' can't be completely unsuited, right?
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Old 01-05-2012, 03:12 PM
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Expedition vessel for California Dreamers.

That sailplan ??? The thing will perform like a Portuguese man o war jellyfish.

And look at the massive cutouts in the foredeck ! YIKES, think you can open them at sea ? Whats hidden under them ? surface to air missiles? Hot air balloon escape capsule ?
And whats the story with the pair of huge anchor winches What do they do ?


Its a shame its so apocalyptic because it looks to be a very nice hull form.
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Old 01-05-2012, 03:30 PM
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Ok Michael now that i see the full rig --I'm enclined to agree--It looks like a dog's breakfast--Thank you Angelique for the photo re-post-Dam it's spookey to see your long dead uncle standing --- Geo.
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Old 01-05-2012, 03:35 PM
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Dont ever get sucker punched into this A frame sailing rig mumbo jumbo on a mono hull. Perhaps a multi with its huge beam for proper sheet leads, but not a mono.
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Old 01-05-2012, 03:45 PM
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Walk softly and carry a big stick---
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Old 01-05-2012, 03:56 PM
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Wow -- look at all those old CV's! Where is that?

Tom
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Old 01-05-2012, 04:05 PM
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I'd say just about any harbour in the U.S. More iron in mothballs than 75% of the world has operational..
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Old 01-05-2012, 04:08 PM
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I'm buyin it.
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Old 01-05-2012, 04:31 PM
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I'm buyin it.
Please send us your reports . . . . .

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