Need some help on RHINO

[Barbaros]

Hello,

I need some help on organizing boat plans under Rhino 3.
(Folders under Rhino 4 will help but, doesn't solve the problem).

Hereafter my problem.
A full set of plans for a boat around 14m (46feet) occupies many layers.
Starting from basic lines of the hull up to virtual pictures there is a huge amount of data to handle every time.
Even a simple file under Rhino becomes quite large if you add some details such as "handrails", "bollards, "windows", etc ...

Because of growing size on bytes, one single file is not practical to hold everything in a common place.

I was starting to split the "plan creation process" into boundaries of 20MB per file maximum.
As an example, think about putting simple lines, curves etc into a first file.
Once you reach the limit of 20MB (approx), copy the minimum required into a 2nd empty file to save
some space by omiting details from the 1st file.
(Also remember, RHINO opens one single file at time).

This works fine.

But my question is, according your knowledge is there any "guideline", or
a "list" which recommends the proper sequence of how to produce a
complete set of plan.

More precisely, step after step what should be (or could be) split into this suite of files?
Is there any book or literature on the Internet talking about the subject?

For example, if I put the "Hull Lines" into a 1st file, and then put the "Wheel house" details
into a 2nd file, the "Frames" into a 3rd file etc ...
Is there somebody who had a similar problem.

I will appreciate your help.
Regards.
Eric.

[Raggi_Thor]

20Mb is your choice.
Have you tried the command "save small"?
This will save only the nurbs geometry, not the meshes.

My neibhours designed a 30 feet fishing boat in one file (mainly). It was 100Mb and took a while to load, but everything worked OK.

You should also try out references, the same as Xrefs in acad.

[Barbaros]

Hello Raggi_Thor,

Many thanks for the advice.
This will help of course if the design remains around 10m and the hull is
an almost open deck fishing boat. Compared to a 14m to 25m vessel there should be acceptable number of pieces.
I even did not start to use any "mesh" at this step.
There must be a general guideline to "how to design" a complete set of vessel plans under Rhino.

Thanks again I will work on your indications.

Regards.
Eric.

[User_U]

don't be afraid about the size - I am currently working with a 170MB RhinoV3 - file which works without any problems. I have all curves, surfaces and parts always in one file till export procedure.
As far as I know Rhino 4 is much better with the layers but I have not tested it.

[Barbaros]

Hi User_U,

My computer slows down after 50MB.
It's an 4 years old AMD with 1,2GB of RAM.
Still reacts very good compared to some new and lo cost PCs.
I will be changing pretty soon to something newer and faster.
You are right, Rhino 4 is much better to "reorganize layers into folders".


My secondary question was : Did you (or someone else) build
a kind of road map to tell what to implement in terms of a complete set of plans for a vessel (Size around 10 to 20m beam 4 to 5m).

I know it is too much to ask but ... well the forum is a place where people may ask some "silly" questions as long as they remain polite.

After making several designs at home for myself and free of charge!,
I start producing something closer to this idea.
But, this is could be a collaborative work.
Your input will be appreicated.


Regards.
Eric.

[terhohalme]

This was done in 1994 by Stephan Hollister, its all there:

http://www.newavesys.com/spiral.htm


In EU, you should follow RSG Guidelines:

http://www.icomia.com/technical-info...t.asp?TI_ID=11

[Barbaros]

Hi Terhohalme,

This is a very valuable source. Many thanks for the help.
Plenty of information ... reading requires some time.

Again thanks and kind regards.
Eric