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Old 11-19-2010, 02:21 PM
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I know a good hand layup is good, but isn't a vacuum bag better and more of a guarantee of no "neverbonds?"
Like someone said earlier.. vacuum bag a couple of bulkheads for starters and the do the next one by hand.. then ya know
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Old 11-19-2010, 04:50 PM
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So do you not think it's difficult to take the half-hull and bulkheads out of the mold, move it aside somewhere, then re-arrange the molds to make the other half of the hull? Also, then to join the two halves together?

I did not find this difficult at all, but I have a steel shed so its easy to attach chain blocks to rafters etc. You would need to have a set of A frames unless the unless the framing of the fabric shed can take the loads.

My thought is it would be easier to never move the hull while working on it, then roll it over while still in a frame and put bulkheads and a deck on.
I guess it's 6 of one, half a dozen of another though, but I don't want to move hulls around. That's what I found to be most difficult last time.
Last time you had no bulkheads in, so the half hulls were floppy.
Agree that its 6 of one and half a dozen of another, as you are working on your own the half hulls on their sides out weigh the need for additional handling.
1. It is much easier to laminate on a horizontal surface than vertical, don't underestimate this.
2. with half hull approach you will not have to walk on the bare foam to do any laminating.
3. much easier to handle short wide planks than long thin ones, they also produce a fairer surface.

These three differences may sound like nothing much to team builders but building on your own they are significant.


Attached photo shows my first half hull stored on the left, second half suspended directly over the third ready to be lowered and joined.
I used 4 chain blocks to lift and rotate the hulls.
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Old 11-19-2010, 05:32 PM
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I think the limiting factor is that I'm building in a tent. There are no overhead lifts or structure to attach to.
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Old 11-20-2010, 06:27 AM
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Catbuilder,

No one has really addressed your core request--you want to sit down with a naval architect for a few hours and go over the plans, ask questions, and get going with a procedure to build the boat. If you would like to come to St. Augustine, send me a PM to discuss rates, time, and details.

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Old 11-20-2010, 07:46 AM
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Cat, Go for Eric. You will stand on very very solid ground. He is a frequent contributer to PB magazine.

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Old 11-20-2010, 03:27 PM
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I sent Eric a PM and will make arrangements for a short meeting with him to discuss the build plan.

Thanks, everyone!
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Old 11-20-2010, 05:49 PM
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I haven't followed this too close, but I'm thinking the plan is to have 1 male mold that 4 halves are made from and those are joined for 2 catamaran hulls.? If that's the case, won't you have to not only turn halves over, but also turn 2 halves end for end somewhere in the process?
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Old 11-20-2010, 11:28 PM
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I haven't followed this too close, but I'm thinking the plan is to have 1 male mold that 4 halves are made from and those are joined for 2 catamaran hulls.? If that's the case, won't you have to not only turn halves over, but also turn 2 halves end for end somewhere in the process?
No, you aren't picturing it correctly.

This is one male mold making one FULL hull (without deck). Like this:





So... from that you roll the hull over (and into place lined up for the bridgedeck). Next, you glass the inside and put in your bulkheads.

Can't think of an easier way to do this in a tent without many guys.
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