My first look at Glen-L plans !!

[Baldur]

Today I got my first look at a set of Glen-L "Hunky Dory" Plans.
The plans consist of 3 sheets, 2 showing construction with very few details. The other is a full size drawing showing various frames and parts, which have very few, if any dimensions. No offsets, very few details, no panel dimensions, only vague building instructions. I could probably build from these plans, but what a pain in the neck!
WTF! Is this typical of Glen-L Plans?
Do other designers have such vague plans also?
I would like to buy a set of plans with a few more details before embarking on this dory project. Any recommendations ???
Thanks

[fede]

Hi, I have a set og Glen plans and are like that...but as far as the project I have they seems to be pretty clear.

[Baldur]

It sure would be nice if a designer would offer plans in 3d Cad format along with the paper plans. I prefer to build with numbers, offsets and scaled prints, and even sometimes right off the computer monitor.
Full size plans are a joke.

[marshmat]

This is normal for this type of plan.
The idea is to make it simple for people who haven't built from plans before to build. Stitch-and-glue, usually. The stitch because the panels don't fit tightly enough to just glass. These boats are designed to be built with no lofting, no jigs. They're designed as a first boat for a new builder, something to learn on.
If you want GOOD plywood-panel, no-jig construction, look at Bolger/Payson boats http://instantboats.com/ , they are very precisely designed despite deceptively simple plans.
The main reasons designers don't usually give out CAD designs are (a) they don't use CAD at all, or (b) they don't want people to make a 10% change and plaigarize their design.

[Baldur]

Thanks Matt,
I dig the Sneakeasy, very unique.

[fede]

Actually a couple of Glen boats are rather complex and go beyond the stitch and glue method.

[Big-A]

i was gonna buy some from him aswell
the rampage model and build it in aluminum
but i called first to talk to them and they said the prints were hand drawn
no good i thought
no auto cad so i said forget it
anyone else that has stuff like that around or what

[Baldur]

What I have decided to do, since this is such a simple dory design, is to measure the full size drawings and convert the drawing to CAD. That way I can check the fit and make changes.

[marshmat]

Hand drawn is not necessarily bad. It's easy to forget that almost any boat built before 1990 was built completely without the benefit of CAD, and many still are today. My current boat was built in my garage from hand-drawn plans. And you will find very few places to buy AutoCAD plans, simply because it is too easy to tweak and resell.

[boatbuilder.org]

That sound about right, but the numbers for bulkhead and panel lofting would be nice. I am assuming the plans are all scaled drawing, if so all the dimensions you need are there.
---Joel---

[Baldur]

Full size (not dimensioned) plans simply make the builder do twice the work for building each part.
Do you need full size plans to build a bookshelf or table? I hope not..