My favourite Women friendly design features

[alan white]

Originally Posted by lazeyjack

sorry, fiddlesticks, too old to worry abt fiddles, but like your enthusiasm, once I had it, but after I invented the first fiddle which attached ANYWHERE across any surface by means of rubber suction cups inserted into the wood rail, I lost interest Often us lads get off topic, but seeing as it's your thread I promise not too,
However if you want to post pics of nice food and attractive woman, well!! and would you have got upset if I had commented on the food) Have a good

Now I know where that fiddle came from that was stuck to some pilings down at the wharf. They finally had to cut it off with a sawzall.

A.

[Bergalia]

Originally Posted by alan white

Now I know where that fiddle came from that was stuck to some pilings down at the wharf. They finally had to cut it off with a sawzall. A.

Dammit Alan...I only left it there for a minute...now I'm having to learn the saxaphone...

Ooops sorry Wilma. Strayed from the subject again...(smacks wrist...exit left to brood on a bucket...)

[SouthernCross]

All this talk of comfort. pffffft

If they like sailing they'll come. The sailing is what it's all about.

[lazeyjack]

Originally Posted by alan white

Now I know where that fiddle came from that was stuck to some pilings down at the wharf. They finally had to cut it off with a sawzall.

A.

in ALL seriousness, a fiddle with rubber suction cups, nice mahog timber or whatever , can be put across cnrs of a table, side board, sink, and trap small thing like salt pepper, vokdka bottle, within, I have to own up here was not me who thought of this but my old dad, who died 18 months ago in NZ

[alan white]

Ditto. It's not a gender thing either. Not when women compete alone in the Vendee Globe. And I've known lots of men who had no interest in the running of the boat too. I chartered a boat once and invited my father, my brother, and his friend along. It is a panicky feeling to see a whole crew of guys having no interest in anything but toasting the sunset or thinking about what restaurants might be found on an island.
I remember in Camden Harbor, which is very crowded, staying on the boat while they went ashore to sight-see. I asked them to please return in a half hour because I had to constantly re-anchor (all chain and windlass) due to shifting tide. They showed up an hour and a half later joking and looking for the scotch. I'd had to anchor four times while they'd been gone, and was spent. I should have left, I think. We grounded on the way out, no lookout, too much foolishness going on to concentrate. My mistake.

a.

[alan white]

Originally Posted by lazeyjack

in ALL seriousness, a fiddle with rubber suction cups, nice mahog timber or whatever , can be put across cnrs of a table, side board, sink, and trap small thing like salt pepper, vokdka bottle, within, I have to own up here was not me who thought of this but my old dad, who died 18 months ago in NZ

In all seriousness, it's a good idea. Into my mental filing cabinet it goes.

Who was it, Jim Carey, who licked his hands (as if suction cups) and climbed up something? Can't remember the movie... maybe Pet Detective. And I shall forever remember the iron rhino giving birth.

[lazeyjack]

Originally Posted by alan white

In all seriousness, it's a good idea. Into my mental filing cabinet it goes.

Who was it, Jim Carey, who licked his hands (as if suction cups) and climbed up something? Can't remember the movie... maybe Pet Detective. And I shall forever remember the iron rhino giving birth.

at risk of being off topic, the best sailor in the world in my book was /is Isa Autissier

[Guillermo]

I don't like very much this thread's title: it implies there are differences about how men and women conceive boating. Are there any?

By the way: I consider available space, intended use and overall compromise as more important than sex when designing a nice functional galley area.

An anecdote: My brother-in-law's former boat, a Westerly 37, although with a well conceived galley, had a low standing room there, which was perfect for her small sized wife (an excellent chef!) but not for the rest of us specially when at sea. Last year he changed the boat for a bigger and more condo-like one with a galley with more standing room: now we can enjoy the excellent cooking abilities of a fellow mate who do not care to be downwards there for a couple of hours cooking delicacies when sailing. Mmmmm....!

[Bergalia]

Originally Posted by Guillermo

I don't like very much this thread's title: it implies there are differences about how men and women conceive boating.

Not quite sure how it's done in Spain Guillermo...but we Scots leave conception to the women....

[alan white]

"By the way: I consider available space, intended use and overall compromise as more important than sex when designing a nice functional galley area."

Readers are encouraged to read the entire thread before responding to this statement out of context.

[Guillermo]

Bergalia: OK, OK, maybe the not so proper word But...hasn't 'conceive' also the meaning of 'conceptualize'?
'Concebir' in spanish has more meanings than to conceive a child. The same for 'conceive' in english. See:

conceive
A verb
1 conceive
become pregnant; undergo conception; "She cannot conceive"; "My daughter was conceived in Christmas Day"

2 think, believe, consider, conceive
judge or regard; look upon; judge; "I think he is very smart"; "I believe her to be very smart"; "I think that he is her boyfriend"; "The racist conceives such people to be inferior"

3 gestate, conceive, conceptualize, conceptualise
have the idea for; "He conceived of a robot that would help paralyzed patients"; "This library was well conceived"
Category Tree:
make; create
╚create by mental act; create mentally
╚gestate, conceive, conceptualize, conceptualise
╚discover; find
╚preconceive
╚design


Alan: Why do you say out of context? My statement is serious and no intended to be out of context. When I conceive a boat's kitchen I do not discriminate if they are men or women the ones who are going to use it, but its practicality, usefulness and compromise with the rest of the boat's design.

.........(some minutes later):
OOPS! I realize now what you have figured out in your mind! You have a dirty one....!

Cheers.

[Wilma Ham]

This is the third time I am typing a reply! I lost the other two and maybe that was for a reason.
I will repeat though that you all seem to have fun while I was asleep on my side of the world.

Guillermo, your ingles is great, don't listen to los otros . Ellos no hablan espanol , pero usted habla ingles, muy bien .

In this thread I just want to have fun with thinking about the interior and lay out of living spaces. I can multi task but am single minded (in this thread). You men can think about the hull, rigging etc and I just want to help with giving a different woman's point of view about living spaces. Who knows what we can come up with.
But I know that I want to have a life on board, even if I do like sailing as well.

About fiddles, I don't want to have any permanent one on the boat, so thanks for all the suggestions.

I am again trying to include photos in this post of things I liked and hope that this time they will get posted.

I like the size of the sink, very useful to bath the conceived babies from bergalia
The drawers and easy to reach storage in the galley are divine. I don't want a lid of the fridge in the bench if I can help it.
I also liked the spice rack on the photo in a previous post from lazyjack.

I rather have less stuff well stored, than lots that is hard to get at.

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[Wilma Ham]

PS I know that drawers can be dangerous but not when you design them well, gentlemen.

[alan white]

Originally Posted by

Alan: Why do you say out of context? My statement is serious and no intended to be out of context. When I [I

conceive[/i] a boat's kitchen I do not discriminate if they are men or women the ones who are going to use it, but its practicality, usefulness and compromise with the rest of the boat's design.

.........(some minutes later):
OOPS! I realize now what you have figured out in your mind! You have a dirty one....!

Cheers.

Oops? Something dirty?

(hours later) Ohhhhhhhhhhh. No, hahaha. I see now what you thought I meant. No. Oh my gosh, no. Just got it. No. I didn't mean that.

[alan white]

Wikma, that has gotta be a 50-70 ft million dollar yacht. Look at the deck height! 7 1/2 ft overhead! Do I see an entire chest of drawers bigger than the one in my bedroom? Is this the size boat you'll be cruising aboard?
You must post a layout and specs for the boat you will actually be sailing.
What you can do in a boat... anything if it's huge---- heli-pads, swimming pools, etc.. What you can do in your boat----- remains to be seen.
What is your own boat? Production, custom, etc..

Alan