Monocat Hull

[trimix]

Did someone here experienced this hull type ?
Pro and cons ?

[trimix]

Originally Posted by trimix

Did someone here experienced this hull type ?
Pro and cons ?

I've forgotten to precise that it is a motor boat

[im412]

i can't really help ..but the yamaha ub580 panga has a similar center line to the hull
and then going to a 15-20deg or so deadrise \_/ [i dont know the right term]
yours has starts at half the hull length the ub580 starts about 1/3
the panga.com i think is a similar hull

so on a narrow scale that shape workes extreamly well...i think
i dont know how it would go having the whole hull like it
might pound a bit ..dont know..air mix under the hull would be important

cheers
jack

[intrepid71]

I don't have experience with the hull type, but I have doubts about the shape you have shown. If this boat is supposed to travel at planing speeds I would think you would want a sharp transition between the forward monohull section and the aft catamaran section. The sharp transition would act as a step and facilitate flow seperation, which would allow an air cavity to form between the aft cat hulls. This would reduce wetted surface and hopefully the overall drag. As it is shown now, with the faired transition between shapes you will not get any flow seperation and the bottom will be fully wetted from bow to stern. The bottom will act as if it has a large hollow in it, which I suspect will have higher drag and worse handling characteristics than a simple straightforward monohull shape.

[marshmat]

I've never actually seen a hull like that before...
If that thing's supposed to plane, as the forefoot shape would imply, it would be rather inefficient as Intrepid said. It could be a semidisplacement hull- still an odd shape for that, though, as that big hollow in the aft section of the keel would seem to suck the stern down at speed- the exact opposite of what a planing or semi hull needs.
I'd like to see that thing from other angles- it might be shaped with a sharp forefoot and a smooth, level transition to the cat section, which would probably be pretty good for pounding through bad waves. It would be nice to see more of the boat, maybe some weight/length/power numbers.

[trimix]

I've found it on this website http://www.abmarine.fr/monocat%20moteur.htm
I don't if it is already built

[squinsin]

We manufacture a 10m version.
Power/sail
www.cliftonyachts.com
look for X33

[KCook]

Does sort of look like a displacement design trying hard to relieve the stern wave?

Kelly Cook

[bhnautika]

This is not a new hull form. The largest boat of this type was Cousteau’s “Alcyone”. This type of design tends to have a short roll period, which can be uncomfortable in some conditions.

[gerard baladi]

It reminds me of the "Stolkraft" design, and how little this concept is talked about.

[phryd]

Hi, I am the architect of the monocat shown on this site.
If you need further information, you can contact me.
Best regards
Philippe RENAUDEAU - PhR Yacht Design
Architecture et construction navale
www.phr-yacht-design.com
Mobile : 06 86 82 99 53 - Tel : 04 42 51 29 92
Le gîte des vents - 7, rue de Valcros - 13090 Aix en Provence
SIRET : 482 487 303 00018 - Code APE : 743B

[kach22i]

Originally Posted by phryd

Hi, I am the architect of the monocat shown on this site.

Architecture et construction navale
www.phr-yacht-design.com

Cool designs, this one is worth talking about...............but I don't want to Hi-Jack the thread.

http://www.phr-yacht-design.com/698BJ.html

[Willallison]

Philippe - perhaps you could explain the thinking behind the monocat to us a little more...?

[phryd]

Thank you both for answering. This hull concept is anything but new. The main interest is to mix advantages (and a few disadvantages I must admit) of mono and multihull. My english is unfortunatly not technically speaking good enough for a full explaination, but this design offers a wide and open space for day life, and due to the wide beam, the displacement is rather light to allow good performances. You can have a look the the last version of this concept on may web site (B-one concept 50), and a 2 pages press article will come out next month in "Loisirs Nautiques" in France.

[tri - star]

To geradi baladi:

The hull form does have some similarities to the Stolkraft form.
There are also some important differences.
The most significant, being, that one is less speed limited than the other.

Most recent licenced people - who are involved with the Stolkraft
francise - that I know of, are the NA firm of AAA. In Seatle, Wash, USA.

Cheers !